Moving tributes to Debbie Lamprell (Flat 161), Pilly Burton, and Rania Ibrahim with her daughters Fatiha and Hania. Family members share personal memories and the profound impact of losing their loved ones.
00:01:20 welcome to the second day of these hearings I'm going to invite mr. Richmond to take matters forward from this point the first commemoration is to
00:01:31 this point the first commemoration is to Debbie lamb Prell from flat one six one the presentation is going to be by Michael Volta from Holland Park Opera
00:01:43 Michael Volta from Holland Park Opera and I'd invite him to the stage
00:01:59 behalf of baby's mother yep and she's called Miriam yep and I think Miriam is with us this
00:02:10 and I think Miriam is with us this morning they can meet and these are her words thank you my name is Miriam lamb Perl I'm 79 years of age and I lost my
00:02:24 Perl I'm 79 years of age and I lost my only child Debbie in the fire at groennfell tower I've asked Mike Volpe to read this because it's impossibly hard for me to stand up and read this out but I am here and I will be coming
00:02:38 out but I am here and I will be coming to the inquiry as difficult as it will be to find out what happened to Debbie I had Debbie in the maternity hospital in Walthamstow in 1971 and bought her home
00:02:51 Walthamstow in 1971 and bought her home to the flat in hyams Park where I still live Debbie and her father my husband reg live there together right through her childhood and she stayed with us all
00:03:02 her childhood and she stayed with us all through her early adulthood when she took her first jobs until Debbie moved out when she was 31 we were an incredibly close and happy family we
00:03:14 incredibly close and happy family we love Debbie and Debbie was devoted to us we we were blessed with Debbie in a way
00:03:25 we we were blessed with Debbie in a way that is very special because Debbie was an only child we encouraged her to have her friends around to play as much as possible she wasn't a pushy person even
00:03:37 possible she wasn't a pushy person even then that she was always extremely popular and she always loved other people's company and was always surrounded by other people so the flat was teeming with other children they
00:03:49 was teeming with other children they love to play on our balcony which overlooked the fields and the park that are opposite our house Debbie always mixed with people from all sorts of backgrounds there were kids from the
00:04:01 backgrounds there were kids from the local estate and there were kids who lived in private houses we lived in a flat but they all loved coming to play because
00:04:08 because he bought them together where we lived was almost like the country right opposite our flat was a huge field and a park which was a perfect place for Debbie and her friends to play there was
00:04:22 Debbie and her friends to play there was a big field at the back of the school so the kids had a whale of a time growing up when it was winter and it snowed they used to get plastic bags and slide down the slopes in these bleak big black bin
00:04:35 the slopes in these bleak big black bin bags it was a lovely way to grow up all of them together she just loved being with other people and I remember every night when it was time to come in she'd say it's always me
00:04:47 time to come in she'd say it's always me first just because I live on the doorstep it's not fair that it's always me that has to come in first even at the funeral several of Debbie's friends came
00:04:58 funeral several of Debbie's friends came up and told me I remembered Debbie would always complain you'd make her go in first even as an adult she'd complain that it was always me she didn't want to
00:05:11 that it was always me she didn't want to go in because she loved people she loved being with people and having fun when I think of Debbie I think of her laughing she was always laughing in many ways she
00:05:23 she was always laughing in many ways she had a blissful childhood not because it was so privileged but because we were all happy reg and I encouraged her to do lots of things we wanted her to try lots
00:05:35 lots of things we wanted her to try lots of different things a bit of everything so she could choose what she liked she did ballet and tap lessons we took her to the theatre and to see the ballet she learned the guitar we went to museums
00:05:47 learned the guitar we went to museums together I've always brought her up to believe so she was christened and confirmed and went to Sunday school she adored sport she played tennis she loved
00:05:58 adored sport she played tennis she loved watching darts snooker and even drag racing which she'd go and see a lot when she was older in a younger days she used to play snooker but as she got older I'd
00:06:10 to play snooker but as she got older I'd say she was more of an armchair sports fan she was always a big supporter of spurs she loved watching spurs especially with her dad
00:06:21 especially with her dad Debbie really worshipped her dad people used to say whenever you look for reg Debbie was there she was his treasure
00:06:37 it's no rush Mike take your time
00:06:43 and she felt the same about him they would go off black bring together but by the time they came back they'd be a big driver kids with them both that's what
00:06:55 driver kids with them both that's what her childhood was like fun and good we both worked hard reg was a painter and a decorator and I worked as a dinner lady
00:07:06 decorator and I worked as a dinner lady in the local school for disabled children until I was 73 but we gave Debbie everything we could and Debbie was always appreciative and wanted to make the most of all of these
00:07:17 make the most of all of these experiences we used to go to museums in Kensington and Chelsea and up to Hyde Park and I think that's where she got the idea that she'd like to live more in that area it's very different than where
00:07:29 that area it's very different than where she spent her childhood much more urban not really my thing but I think we'd inspired Debbie to find a way of living which suited her which made her feel
00:07:41 which suited her which made her feel happy and fulfilled because she was happy and fulfilled when she left school she started to work in a bank but really she wanted to work in hospitality she
00:07:52 she wanted to work in hospitality she loved working with people looking after them making sure they had a good time so she found a job in Holiday Inn in Gloucester Road which is how she ended
00:08:03 Gloucester Road which is how she ended up living in West London she lived at home with us but the traveling to West London especially late at night or very early in the morning got to be too much
00:08:16 early in the morning got to be too much it wasn't particularly safe for a young woman traveling on her own so she moved out to be near her work I was always worried about her living in the bed sits or the studio flats as she called it it
00:08:29 or the studio flats as she called it it really wasn't appropriate for someone in her thirties who worked so hard the conditions weren't good and I used to badger her to put her name down with the council to get somewhere proper to live
00:08:41 council to get somewhere proper to live somewhere safe and decent of course it feels terrible to have done that now because she was given the flat in Granville she loved her little flat and
00:08:52 Granville she loved her little flat and she kept it lovely but the refurbishment became a nightmare she had problems with the electricity problems with the heating she was very upset about having the boiler in the corridor right when you open the front
00:09:04 corridor right when you open the front door that was very upsetting to her but I used to think well at least when I go she's got a roof over her head my husband died eight years ago and that
00:09:16 my husband died eight years ago and that was a heavy blow to us both I realized I had to pull myself together and I said to Debbie that she should concentrate on herself getting her own life back together but she was incredibly kind and
00:09:29 together but she was incredibly kind and supportive if anything it brought us closer together she would text me every morning and if for whatever reason she had not heard by nine o'clock she'd be ringing the neighbors making
00:09:41 she'd be ringing the neighbors making sure they went round to see if everything was all right and then she would ring me at night or if she was working late at the Opera she would text me in the morning and ring to talk in the afternoon then always text
00:09:53 talk in the afternoon then always text at night to say she was home safely so I wouldn't worry mom I'm home everything's okay love you
00:10:05 she would have me over to stay with her often for a week at a time we would go all around the area would go to Hyde Park together but recently as my legs got worse it was difficult to visit the
00:10:19 got worse it was difficult to visit the problems with the lifts made it not very nice to be in there when Debbie was at work because you couldn't get out easily she really loved her work she was really
00:10:31 she really loved her work she was really really happy with her life you rarely see my Debbie without a smile people took to Debbie because she was an easy friendly person she would help anybody she loved traveling sometimes I'd go
00:10:44 she loved traveling sometimes I'd go with her sometimes she'd go with a friend we'd been to Paris Germany Holland Greece and Spain but she went further abroad to places like Sri Lanka she loved exploring new places finding
00:10:57 she loved exploring new places finding out new things meeting new people she just really loved life but she also loved London in her home she counted herself as blessed she would visit me every Saturday morning and she would
00:11:09 every Saturday morning and she would always bring me to scratch cards and she'd say I don't know why I bring you these scratch cards because we don't need money we're so lucky with what we've got
00:11:19 we've got and that's how she was happy she was happy with her friends with her job with her life her neighbors with living in lebryk Grove and that's the cruel thing she did not want more
00:11:32 thing she did not want more she felt blessed my neighbor downstairs used to say she knew when Debbie had come to visit because she could hear the laughing coming from upstairs people envied me because she was so good to me
00:11:44 envied me because she was so good to me and people came up to me even now and say for that short time you had more love from Debbie than most people get in a whole lifetime it wasn't until I lost Debbie that I
00:11:56 it wasn't until I lost Debbie that I realized how many friends she had and what she meant to so many people the kids who used to play with her had mostly moved away to the silly ours or whales or Brighton but they all came to
00:12:09 whales or Brighton but they all came to the funeral and one of her friends came up to me and said I know you've lost her and she's gone but she's left so many footprints and she said you would not believe how
00:12:21 and she said you would not believe how many people loved her and it's the lives she touched I had no idea about that have moved me most I've been told how hugely popular and respected Debbie was
00:12:34 hugely popular and respected Debbie was at opera Holland Park where she worked as a safety officer so many people there even the singers and orchestra players as well as all the patrons knew and loved Debbie not just because she was
00:12:46 loved Debbie not just because she was responsible for checking things and looking after them but because she was always interested and concerned with their families and lives I'm so pleased that an inscribed stone has been laid at
00:12:58 that an inscribed stone has been laid at the theater in Holland Park in Debbie's memory right at the spot that she would sing and listen to the performances a permanent tribute to her I got a message
00:13:09 permanent tribute to her I got a message from a lady who lived in the walkways and she wrote to me she had no idea how to contact me but she eventually tracked me through her carer and opera Holland Park and she wrote to me to say that she
00:13:21 Park and she wrote to me to say that she and Debbie had become friends and she loved Debbie and she had said a mass for her someone I had no idea about to me we
00:13:32 her someone I had no idea about to me we were just a normal family and Debbie was just a normal person but the morning of the funeral the whole school where I was a dinner lady stood outside as we passed the headmaster his wife the teachers
00:13:47 because they knew Debbie they remembered her and although I had no idea they loved her too I am bereft without her if
00:14:00 loved her too I am bereft without her if she had died a normal death I would have been able to hold her or comfort her and say goodbye but I feel a part of me has been ripped out nothing seems worth it
00:14:14 been ripped out nothing seems worth it anymore
00:14:17 she touched so many lives with her kindness and her smile so many people come up to me and mention her smile because she did have a smile all of the
00:14:28 because she did have a smile all of the time I don't really know what made her so positive it's not that she had so much money or anything but she had her
00:14:39 much money or anything but she had her freedom she did what she wanted to do and she loved people and I think that made her rich the night she died she texted me I've got him mum all's well
00:14:53 texted me I've got him mum all's well good night god bless I thought that's okay she's safe I went to bed and I got up in the morning and I didn't have a daughter her body was burned in the
00:15:06 daughter her body was burned in the tower so to say she was cremated is a strange thing but her ashes were laid to rest on the 20th of April in the city of
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00:15:26 crematorium next door to her father
00:15:39 all right I'm an old woman with nothing else left
00:15:43 else left and maybe it's taken losing debbie to realize we weren't normal debbie was an exceptional extraordinary person and I was completely blessed to
00:15:58 person and I was completely blessed to have her as my daughter
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00:16:17 [Applause] Miss example thank you very much that was a most moving tribute we have in fact got some more to come sir I think firstly if the lights could go down this
00:16:31 firstly if the lights could go down this is the step which was created at Holland Park Opera which is the step we've heard about where Debbie sat when she was
00:16:44 about where Debbie sat when she was working and so anybody who goes to Holland Park opera will be reminded of the love that those at that particular venue had for her there was a memorial
00:16:58 venue had for her there was a memorial service for Debbie and we are going to see a part of that and I warn everybody now that it's a very emotional and
00:17:10 now that it's a very emotional and moving piece of footage sadness about
00:17:24 moving piece of footage sadness about Debbie
00:17:26 Debbie two people here were friends at Debbie's are going to say something of interest
00:17:35 to many of us and she became my friend along the way let's remember the good times that we share a smile everything everything I'd like to have public her
00:17:48 everything I'd like to have public her kindness and always putting others first that mean we love you what's always sadness in grief is present moment I'm not ready to think equai so we wish you
00:18:04 not ready to think equai so we wish you eternal peace there the a-frame hours
00:18:12 I've been asked to say a few words as well and there is going to be of you because it just hasn't sunk in yet I didn't get raped seasons and friends versus myself annually we may not see
00:18:23 versus myself annually we may not see each other much or at all outside of the season but for two months were a group and have each other's back especially on combat picnic Fridays we catch up we say hello again to all
00:18:34 catch up we say hello again to all friends and colleagues sadly Debbie won't be here to do that again but she's obviously be part of my endeavors
00:18:43 and it's great to see you guys here today
00:18:48 today that was always family orientated I don't think I said this to Mike that the Dania Greeks I don't think I ever ever saw there be one single day which didn't ask me on my mother story six hundred
00:19:00 ask me on my mother story six hundred eight hundred times even if it was consecutive days is about family though you use word in our business but this is our family you know a lot of guys coming
00:19:12 our family you know a lot of guys coming here today to show you that we're team and you know we will carry on remember in my clan have talked about different things in the future bow to remember at
00:19:23 things in the future bow to remember at the moment you know you're the center of our thoughts what we can you help you and we I can honestly say that we just love
00:19:35 and forget this music in a moment that was arranged quite well if you've learned I was sitting in that forest it's written things for the Queen when he learned what it was for today said it
00:19:46 he learned what it was for today said it coming by himself was a thing about this specific kind of place here
00:19:53 thank you very much
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00:25:19 we will tell you
00:25:24 it's appointed us we lost one of our
00:25:29 he said hate that you say have many many many times
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00:25:54 I don't know about anybody else but I'd like a minute please so can I ask you if you'd rise for a few minutes conky
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00:33:44 yes sir as you know there were many victims of the Grenville fire the 71 who lost their lives as a direct result of
00:33:56 lost their lives as a direct result of the fire their loved ones those who were injured those who lost their homes and their communities the next commemoration is for pilly
00:34:09 the next commemoration is for pilly Burton who died sadly in January of this year
00:34:14 year she was a vibrant and much-loved member of the Grendel community and we are pleased and honored to commemorate her
00:34:25 pleased and honored to commemorate her life alongside those of her fellow residents from a community which she and her husband Nicholas who will present the commemoration both loved thank you
00:34:39 the commemoration both loved thank you very much it's just going to be the people just bring that microphone in front of you so we can hear you properly
00:34:50 front of you so we can hear you properly all right thank you tell so better much better thank you okay my name is Nicholas Burton and I live in Grand Hotel WA with my wife pili Maria
00:35:04 Grand Hotel WA with my wife pili Maria de baile for over 33 years I was born closed to the tower and my family will all form around the area and I grew up living and playing around Latimer Road
00:35:16 living and playing around Latimer Road and Lancaster West estate personally I had a difficult childhood but the area was really great place to grow up
00:35:26 everybody was in and out of everybody else's house is contrary to some preconceptions it was a very safe place to grow up
00:35:37 to grow up because it was such a tight knitted community people had no fears of breaking ins or anybody so everybody kept their keys on a piece of string which was grabbed through the letterbox
00:35:51 which was grabbed through the letterbox remember those days and in the 70s were exciting times and there was so much going on but the main thing was it was a community and a community was built up
00:36:03 community and a community was built up of layer upon layer of people's coming into the area people who came into this country to help build things here my
00:36:15 country to help build things here my father came over from st. Lucia to drive the buses there was a big West Indian community and Spanish community stretching back to a Spanish Civil War so I grew up with Spanish kids in my
00:36:28 so I grew up with Spanish kids in my class at Holland Park and a whole range of kids that I grew up with around 1983 then I'll sit in my sixth form they
00:36:39 then I'll sit in my sixth form they asked me if I wanted to to come to this Spanish discotheque on a Sunday and as Paul few boots which is just off Carnaby Street and that's where I met peely she
00:36:52 Street and that's where I met peely she was an amazing flamboyant very friendly she talked to everybody and I mean everybody if she's got into the lift what a tiny got out she knew everybody's
00:37:04 what a tiny got out she knew everybody's name and their family history while she loved dancing she was incredibly magnetic wonderful person but
00:37:15 incredibly magnetic wonderful person but because she's a bit older than me I thought she was out of my league pili actually lived in a tower and she was one of the very first residents the only
00:37:27 one of the very first residents the only person who ever lived in her flat she moved in the early 70s so that after
00:37:38 moved in the early 70s so that after Phoebus would walk back to labid Grove and Peter would invite us to her flat where we played cards and listen to music with her parents who were always there Peter was born in a place before
00:37:52 there Peter was born in a place before all and that's in Galicia in the problems of Catalunya in northwest corner of Spain in this area which is sort of Naval Dockyard his mother's
00:38:04 sort of Naval Dockyard his mother's family were all in the Navy they're very wealthy very high-status her father came from an enormous family so if you walk down around for role you
00:38:17 so if you walk down around for role you couldn't help but bump into some IP Lee's family after peace our mother was widowed in the war then always war in Spain's ok
00:38:28 Spain's ok she married Antonia Chile's father and Polly was born in the forties and grew up in for all the family also took in children of two friends and brought them
00:38:41 children of two friends and brought them up alongside pili they'll always call himself brother and sister many he became a professor of Fine Arts in Savannah in America and also Jose Maria
00:38:55 Savannah in America and also Jose Maria who was also an academic and become a professor in London a professor in London the family had various businesses but he decided to come to London when Peter was still in their teens they
00:39:07 Peter was still in their teens they bought a large house in North Kensington for about six thousand pounds if only now um me a feisty and outgoing pilly learn
00:39:20 um me a feisty and outgoing pilly learn English very quickly so well that she didn't even have a hint of a Spanish accent even though she spoke fluent Spanish also fluent Portuguese Italian
00:39:32 Spanish also fluent Portuguese Italian and French after school she started work initially in the catering she met her first husband when she's around 17 years
00:39:44 first husband when she's around 17 years old
00:39:46 old and also fell pregnant and had a son Victor soon after moving into Grenfell
00:39:56 she got divorced when Victor's father when I met pili she was living in Grenfell and Victor her son had already had a young family of his own and even
00:40:08 had a young family of his own and even living in Clarendon walk greatly a relationship developed and I moved in socked by sock so my mother asked
00:40:19 socked by sock so my mother asked where's all your clothes and I explained I have a girlfriend and she's around your age
00:40:27 yeah thank you
00:40:31 we were together for 34 years and we got married in 2000 after being together for 16 there's also always music in our
00:40:42 16 there's also always music in our house people come in and go in lots of food lots of friends my friends my wife's friends our parents friends and lots of Spanish music and I've heard
00:40:55 lots of Spanish music and I've heard some very good singers her father sang in a Galicia in choir and at least people are not like other Spanish people now they're really Celts lots of red
00:41:07 now they're really Celts lots of red hair blond hair blue eyes green eyes and also the music is very Celtic lots of bagpipes and dancing like Irish dance in
00:41:18 bagpipes and dancing like Irish dance in the gleason community around Portobello is very strong because a big Spanish school there so when people come up from Galicia or any part of spraying they'll
00:41:29 Galicia or any part of spraying they'll also come to the Spanish school there's always people around who peel either invite to join us I wasn't just a Spanish community the Portuguese
00:41:40 Spanish community the Portuguese community all sort of rockins West Indian community with their music - we all mix together
00:41:52 all mix together pity was very much part of all of this and she loved reggae music a lot
00:42:02 and she danced to everything he couldn't stop her you could actually stop the whole family and I father mother just
00:42:13 whole family and I father mother just loved music as well and even when they got much olders into their 80s I'd come home from work and they be playing music incredibly loud and I'll be telling them
00:42:25 incredibly loud and I'll be telling them to turn it down and I'd be said to pity this is the wrong way around
00:42:34 but I got on with all of them her parents who treated me like a son Victor her son was just I was actually a year older than me and her first husband
00:42:49 year older than me and her first husband when we went on holiday to Portugal I met him and he was very nice to me everybody just got along food food was very important Chile's
00:43:00 food food was very important Chile's paella was internationally known everybody came to our house wanting paella everybody just loved her cooking there was never anything delivered
00:43:12 there was never anything delivered everybody want freshly cooked I worked in the wine trade so it's always excellent wine around food and music we
00:43:25 excellent wine around food and music we really had a fantastic life brilliant neighbors like Debbie lamp rau who was always in our house anatomy with pili
00:43:52 thank you
00:43:56 peely was just brilliant with people she always talked along and we used to have a joke that men think that women talk a lot and women think that you talk a lot
00:44:09 lot and women think that you talk a lot it's really taught how she knew everybody on Portobello Road you go past every store and it will be pili pili pili she knew everybody and everybody
00:44:21 pili she knew everybody and everybody knew her she was a very beautiful and could've chosen anybody really I don't know why she chose me but from when we
00:44:33 know why she chose me but from when we got together we were never apart pili love fashion she was always an amazing dresser full
00:44:47 she was always an amazing dresser full of colours totally flamboyant but I was always her own style she might go out and buy something even hundreds of pounds and then put it with something that costs $2.99 and people would just
00:45:00 that costs $2.99 and people would just go wow because she had an eye and understanding how to put things together she always understand understood how to carry things off she had class a style
00:45:12 carry things off she had class a style and just knew what worked she had a fabulous sense of style she was very
00:45:23 fabulous sense of style she was very independent she owned her own money always worked and she loved spending it dressing up entertaining her family and friends I love my wife and I was in
00:45:38 friends I love my wife and I was in complete awe of her because the world generally revolved around her wherever she went
00:45:47 she went everybody was for PE she wasn't a princess or anything she she was just a people's person talking to people making
00:45:59 people's person talking to people making friends she was just an extraordinary woman
00:46:04 now she was like that at work she worked as a contract manager for several years several hospitals in a rounded area at the end ended up at st. Charles hospital
00:46:16 the end ended up at st. Charles hospital for many years to look after the porters domestics and catering staff so she knew many people she was a big personality in
00:46:28 many people she was a big personality in every hospital she worked in everybody knew Polly and she was loved and respected because she really looked
00:46:39 respected because she really looked after everybody it's difficult to comprehend how many lives she affected
00:46:49 of course her family were incredibly important just see with extremely proud of her son and her grandson and
00:47:01 of her son and her grandson and great-grandchildren and as apparels grew older they came to live with us in London before then they used to spend six months in Spain and six lots of us
00:47:14 six months in Spain and six lots of us and things were becoming more difficult for Petey's mother who got sick we nursed her together
00:47:27 and I know and I was with her holding her hand when she died at said Charles
00:47:38 her hand when she died at said Charles Hospital a year later her father had a stroke and passed away and this hit peeling hard pity was very distraught
00:47:52 peeling hard pity was very distraught and on the day of her father's funeral we got early to organized the food and Peter was really upset and she just lost
00:48:03 Peter was really upset and she just lost her mother and now her father but then came a terrible news that her brother Jose Maria had just been killed
00:48:15 he'd been in a terrible road accident and died underneath a lorry is if an incredible blow for my wife not too
00:48:29 incredible blow for my wife not too short he ever recovered the family was so close but so much part of each other's lives it was devastating for her they lost everybody in such a short
00:48:41 they lost everybody in such a short space of time I try to consult her or taking on holiday our last trip together
00:48:54 taking on holiday our last trip together was a drive around Europe I decided to take pili to see the French wine country so we drove to Champaign went around the champagne vineyards and then we drove to
00:49:07 champagne vineyards and then we drove to Burgundy and went around like clove owes you some of the other famous vineyards we then went on to switch to learn to
00:49:18 we then went on to switch to learn to Zurich I spent some time with some friends then we drove on to Milan very fast when she found a shopping center she was overwhelmed that wasn't
00:49:33 center she was overwhelmed that wasn't from there we drove to Venice she loved Venice and we drank champagne in a gondola and then on to Florence wow that
00:49:44 gondola and then on to Florence wow that just took her breath away we had five days in Ostia on the beach and then three days in Rome she just loved every
00:49:55 three days in Rome she just loved every minute of it but even so something wasn't right we came back and we realized she had the
00:50:06 came back and we realized she had the onset of dementia and this changed our life completely and around 2015 her
00:50:17 life completely and around 2015 her context our condition became so bad that's had to give up work it was very difficult time for her our whole world came crashing around down from being
00:50:31 came crashing around down from being forced to give up work it was a terrible blow and she lived for other people so being isolated it was very hard for her
00:50:47 of course the stress and problems related to the refurbishment of the tower made everything worse and we would leaseholders and we bought a flat in
00:50:59 leaseholders and we bought a flat in 1994 so we were already involved in disputes with the council and the TMO as you'll hear about bullying in statements
00:51:10 you'll hear about bullying in statements that were made and the stress was upsetting but terrible friends were pili to deal with all I could do was try to make her feel secure and comfortable I
00:51:23 make her feel secure and comfortable I think you're about to tell us now a little about the night of the fire aren't you yes night of the fire I was
00:51:36 aren't you yes night of the fire I was with my wife on the night of the fire and we both fallen asleep on a sofa watching DVD and I woke to discover the building was on fire I've given a
00:51:49 building was on fire I've given a statement about this um I can say that it was impossible to carry my wife down well that could be about 40 flights of
00:52:02 well that could be about 40 flights of stairs so we had to wait to be rescued during a rescue she had to be carried out by four fire officers and were
00:52:13 out by four fire officers and were emerging climatized with most of her clothes cut off I tried to get to her but I had to recount giving triage for
00:52:26 but I had to recount giving triage for smoke inhalation
00:52:31 I was convinced that my wife was dead but miraculously survived I was rushed to hospital I was taken to the ambulance
00:52:43 to hospital I was taken to the ambulance and we were told to we were following pili to the same hospital but when I got to Chelsea and Westminster there was no
00:52:54 to Chelsea and Westminster there was no sign of pili I was suffering badly for smoke inhalation I was in a panic about my wife
00:53:03 wife no one had any information about her or where she was or let alone where she was still alive and it wasn't until the
00:53:18 still alive and it wasn't until the following day that I finally got a phone call to say PD was at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead initially I refused they say I was refused
00:53:29 refused they say I was refused permission to leave Chelsea and Westminster Hospital I eventually checked out to go and see pili when I got to the wall free she was
00:53:41 pili when I got to the wall free she was she was in a terrible state because I'm suffering badly from their effects of inhalation I later learned that her body was cut and bruised all over but a
00:53:56 was cut and bruised all over but a trauma has had a terrible effect on police dementia and she was very distressed how do you explain what had
00:54:08 distressed how do you explain what had happened to person in a condition that our house had gone our dog had gone our good friends and neighbors may have
00:54:19 good friends and neighbors may have passed and many friends were missing
00:54:26 and and there are parents ashes which we kept in a flat at gorni everything was gone it was just too much so I had to
00:54:38 gone it was just too much so I had to try to explain with little bits of information to help her guide her through the trauma of course I was still informing myself but as much harder for
00:54:51 informing myself but as much harder for her I was struggling with the effects of the fire myself and then I was told the
00:55:03 the fire myself and then I was told the OBE later that my heart was dangerously enlarged and that I had a severe leaking valve and I'll need an operation so I
00:55:15 valve and I'll need an operation so I had my operation on the 18th of December and by this time my wife was in a care home and I was reciting in a hotel the
00:55:27 home and I was reciting in a hotel the operation didn't go too well and I needed more surgery at the end and I was in intensive care for up to six days it
00:55:38 in intensive care for up to six days it was now of course December 25th I was desperate to see pili the hospital agreed to let me go and I was recovering from my operation when pitty had a brain
00:55:52 from my operation when pitty had a brain hemorrhage in early January which caused a massive stroke she was on life support in the hospital the night of a stroke I
00:56:06 in the hospital the night of a stroke I managed to say a few words to each other but then she fell silent
00:56:15 after two weeks of my support they told me there was nothing they could do so she was put in a room they gave me a
00:56:28 so she was put in a room they gave me a mattress today I can sleep on the floor I had to stay there with her I didn't want to leave the room I just stayed
00:56:40 want to leave the room I just stayed there for the whole week listening and listening and holding her hand just like I'd done with her mother in January 29th I'm kidding - her last
00:56:56 in January 29th I'm kidding - her last breath just as her son walked in the room it has to have been waiting for him to be there so she was had and that's
00:57:07 to be there so she was had and that's the way she would have wanted him to be there
00:57:22 all that life the essence of a person how they lived their life was gone it didn't make it doesn't matter what Willie's not believe you have it's just
00:57:35 Willie's not believe you have it's just a very sad moment we don't know what life is really don't really know what we are or who we are what life has in store
00:57:46 are or who we are what life has in store but we're just truly blessed and I'm truly blessed about her 34 years were such a person we had fun we'd laughed we
00:58:01 such a person we had fun we'd laughed we got to go through life together and it was wonderful this is all we can do my wife used to tell me don't worry
00:58:12 my wife used to tell me don't worry don't worry about it she used to like the Bob Marley song you know don't worry about a thing every little things gonna be all right
00:58:23 every little things gonna be all right she loved that she loved playing again and again we have three little birds Bob Bob Marley and we played this a few no
00:58:34 Bob Marley and we played this a few no she was cremated at arm tinsel Green Crematorium where her parents have been cremated
00:58:42 there was a horse-drawn coach with a close friends falling behind in limousines we congregated as a Clement James Center wherever people join the
00:58:57 James Center wherever people join the contact
00:59:02 they carried on up to leopard Grove and I suddenly realized there's more and more cars joining us until we got to the fire station I looked and saw the entire fire station
00:59:15 I looked and saw the entire fire station crew with their engines were standing outside in a guard of honor and order fire officers had white roses we stopped
00:59:27 fire officers had white roses we stopped they stopped and they came over and they the white roses by this time I was a bit overwhelmed but we can continue up the
00:59:39 overwhelmed but we can continue up the HERA world and turns of the crematorium and I couldn't believe my eyes there was hundreds of people there and everyone there was wearing he created all
00:59:50 there was wearing he created all colorful outfits magnificent flamboyant outfits I had 34 years with peely and
01:00:04 outfits I had 34 years with peely and they were beautiful glorious wonderful years filled with happiness love and laughter I adored her and we shared it with everybody around us she was unique
01:00:18 with everybody around us she was unique beautiful exceptional person and that it's who this tragedy has taken away it took away her dignity and everything
01:00:30 took away her dignity and everything that we had in this world but let me tell you no matter what indignities my wife had to suffer my pity was perfect
01:00:46 [Applause]
01:00:53 [Music]
01:01:03 Nickolas that was a very beautiful portrait can I ask you because I've been wondering where that amazing picture was taken that was in Rome 2014 she looks
01:01:16 taken that was in Rome 2014 she looks very happy very some beautiful picture she was beautiful thank you thank you very much indeed that was a very moving tribute and I'm
01:01:27 that was a very moving tribute and I'm big feel very privileged to have heard it thank you thank you very much so we have a bit of rearranging to do so could I trouble you just to leave us remember yes of course
01:01:38 yes of course oh thank you I've been reminded forgive me thank heavens I've got people around to you know what they're doing I think you've done a PowerPoint for some of you yes yes well thank you I'm so sorry
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01:02:49 please Kevin say something welcome to London
01:02:49 London Thank You Emma say something in English self come back come back
01:03:00 this is my husband I put on this new venue uh-huh well for now in do it speak speak
01:03:09 speak say hello goodbye
01:05:12 I'm glad we didn't miss that thank you
01:05:32 I think I can now probably invite you to rice breaking yes well sir I see the time is quarter past eleven I wonder if people might take her cause for now if
01:05:43 people might take her cause for now if they want to stretch their legs to get a cup of tea and sitting at a 1/2 past yes
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01:30:59 you caught the explanation I just gave we had a slight technical hitch apologies for the delay we are now ready this is the first of three over three
01:31:12 this is the first of three over three separate days three commemorations - Rania Ibrahim Fatiha Hassan and Hania ascend the people on the table are
01:31:25 ascend the people on the table are ragged al-tikriti who I understand as an interpreter good morning thinking and Russia Ibrahim who is Ronnie as sister would you like to introduce us who else
01:31:37 would you like to introduce us who else we have on stage with you we've got Russia's husband and we've got Maria or weingartz a from bat Murphy and I'm going to read a statement on behalf
01:31:49 I'm going to read a statement on behalf of Russia and then my name is Russia I'm ed Adly Ibrahim I have prepared the
01:32:01 ed Adly Ibrahim I have prepared the statement and film in memory of my sister Rania Ahmed adlib Rahim and her two daughters my niece's fatiha and hanya who died in
01:32:12 niece's fatiha and hanya who died in their home in flat 203 on the 23rd floor of Graham tall tower Rania and I were born in Aswan a city on the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt to a large and
01:32:25 Nile in southern Egypt to a large and loving family in 2009 Ronnie I moved to the UK while I stayed behind in Egypt I felt her loss very keenly but we kept in close
01:32:37 very keenly but we kept in close contacts and our lives continued in parallel hers in London and mine and Egypt I met my husband damid in 2010 the same year she met her husband Hassan we
01:32:50 same year she met her husband Hassan we both married in 2011 in 2012 Rania gave birth to her daughter fat here we always called her fufu my son Meyers was born
01:33:02 called her fufu my son Meyers was born just a few months later in February 2013 Rania came to visit Egypt with little fufu wen Hua's was just 4 months old in 2014
01:33:15 months old in 2014 rania had a second little daughter Hania and then came to Egypt to attend our mother's funeral in November that year in 2016 she visited Egypt twice in March
01:33:29 in 2016 she visited Egypt twice in March and in December for our brother Mohammed's wedding and for the birth of my little daughter Sidra some people just taking their
01:33:41 Sidra some people just taking their seats
01:33:47 thank you
01:33:50 then in January 2017 she had to go back to London with the children that was the last time I saw them in person though we
01:34:02 last time I saw them in person though we continue to talk daily on Skype and FaceTime it is very difficult for me to think or talk about what came next it has been so hard after that terrible
01:34:16 has been so hard after that terrible night came a cruel time of false hopes and rumours I came here thinking I would be able to lay my loved ones to rest but there were then months of uncertainty
01:34:29 there were then months of uncertainty before they were identified and buried to this day the questions remain in my mind and plagued me about what exactly happened it is very important for me to
01:34:42 happened it is very important for me to take part in this process of questioning finding out the truth it is so important for me to understand how it could come about that I have lost Rania my beloved
01:34:54 about that I have lost Rania my beloved sister while my children who are still so young have lost their little cousins I cannot lay them to rest yet thank you
01:35:05 I cannot lay them to rest yet thank you I think the second part of this is going to be a film which was made I know in preparation for this by Russia and if
01:35:16 preparation for this by Russia and if the lights can be dimmed we can watch the film
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01:35:56 crayon a unique ability with them is up our look at the best value can do Miami from this soloist Indiana border to flow they yeah like a burden on my butt could octo written in half of each other a visible part could almost have a
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01:36:26 that ceiling on the Hager I hope we'll have this marketeers of Holloway I know but it's what keeps it all about what fun the other loves the guy who loves therapy earlier see ya know what idea I can't marry
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01:36:52 bacterial attack ooh looks awesome let's all ahead yeah couldn't if you see that mean yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna fake it silac fake it all in Italian - daddy was
01:37:05 silac fake it all in Italian - daddy was sick about the power like at haptic Emile mr. self off Jeremy I had to tell you had them happy deck we have been
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01:38:18 should be how love Bella to let me Tecna get 0 here so worried no we shake little bit we have a second drama daddy it's a paradox of MOCA thinking where is
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01:40:46 the husband in a masseur give me that yeah I more toppity Hollis bluffs at the bar after you cut the sitting in my bath Kalama nama but I really mean at least cover you good to kill about escapee our
01:40:58 cover you good to kill about escapee our food cat here I'm up to book Haggart of the hot tub I bet with them out of that thank you
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01:43:02 today heroic super holiday don't see it because it's kind of my house are sort of fooled an you I'd come up a cool across Tamara teddy
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01:43:29 Alamelu to hear yelling Rock Dibble aha Albert kalaam kalaam kalaam I uh helped us on my quest where's Roberta
01:43:45 but obviously welcome it the crafty I reload content it had the one what the occurred sorta thought oh yeah shall have a E&H sort of a burst water
01:44:00 shall have a E&H sort of a burst water well I'm had the chief Sir William Indrani I'm in Russia is not so tough he could be table hire homelessness power Coliseum make it called a Gabby oh no
01:44:13 Coliseum make it called a Gabby oh no Saul to Quran there are a lot of the answer if the same Aikido fish have them you were more anemic hacks I'm God not
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01:45:13 [Applause]
01:45:18 that was a very moving piece of work thank you so much for that sir we have a position where the next presentation is
01:45:30 position where the next presentation is going to need to be after lunch because there are some technical difficulties so in fact I'm going to have to change the order a little which is not expected I'm
01:45:41 order a little which is not expected I'm going to be asking the chukar family to go next and the the presentation for them they're not expecting that at the moment so I'm afraid I'm gonna have to
01:45:52 moment so I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to give us a few moments to get that sorted out I don't know if you want to stay where you are because I know you don't want to keep coming and going but we will need a few minutes right well before we do before we decide on that
01:46:04 before we do before we decide on that kind just say thank you very much that was a very moving film and I could tell it was difficult for you to make it and I'm very glad that you shared it with us thank you know mr. Richmond although I'm
01:46:19 thank you know mr. Richmond although I'm quite happy to sit here I suspect you and everyone else would prefer to rearrange ourselves without me being here so I'm going to rise I rise for as long as you find it necessary to make
01:46:30 long as you find it necessary to make the arrangements thank you very much great thank you very much
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