Emotional commemoration hearing where bereaved families shared tributes to their loved ones lost in the fire, including Miriam and Isla, Rania and her daughters, and Gloria, describing their lives, final moments, and demanding justice.
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00:14:51 yes what do you say
00:14:58 so this is day six of the commemorations the first of the commemorations today is for Isla El quarry and Miriam el guar II
00:15:11 for Isla El quarry and Miriam el guar II who lived in flat 196 may I introduce Ellis son and Miriam's brother armadale Gauri good morning he has a he
00:15:25 armadale Gauri good morning he has a he has a statement with photos which he would like to read I'm here today to
00:15:37 would like to read I'm here today to talk about my younger sister Miriam or quarry who died beside my mother is like War II on the 14th of June of 2017 in Grandville tower
00:15:50 shortly after I turned 16 we lost our Father over 20 years ago when man was only 8 and I just finished my first day
00:16:01 only 8 and I just finished my first day of GCC exams I was not only an older brother I had to start playing the role of a father figure and become the man of the house not a simple task by any
00:16:13 the house not a simple task by any measure as a result we became a very close-knit family just the three of us me Miriam and my mum furthermore I'm
00:16:26 me Miriam and my mum furthermore I'm always instilled in us that the only that we only had each other and had to live and had to be there for each other no matter what that never left me and I lived by that
00:16:37 that never left me and I lived by that philosophy this is the image that you've all become familiar with my sister my little sister since the night of the fire but I'm here today to tell you who
00:16:50 fire but I'm here today to tell you who she really was
00:16:53 mom was born in London and raised in Granville all her life and died in Granville at the age of 27
00:17:03 despite the eight year age gap between myself and mom we were always told we were very much alike obviously she's the more glamorous one but we shared many
00:17:14 more glamorous one but we shared many similar attributes including our sense of humor
00:17:16 of humor lots of banter our love for sport particularly tennis and I Drive to excel in both our personal and working lives thanks to her friends there is now a
00:17:28 thanks to her friends there is now a bench at the Westway Tennis Center in her honor one of the many tennis courts we both grew up playing on to fully capture Miriam's personality I spoke to those who were very close to
00:17:40 I spoke to those who were very close to her including her circle of friends and someone that was very special to her I wanted to ensure that I captured her fully and shared that story with you today and to make sure she's not
00:17:51 today and to make sure she's not forgotten Rome had lots of different group of friends also known to her friends as Maz she was adaptable in that way and got on with everyone what was
00:18:04 way and got on with everyone what was striking when speaking to them even though they didn't know each other so all know each other they used the same ways to describe Maryam they told me she was happy a ray of sunshine once said
00:18:16 was happy a ray of sunshine once said she creates positive rays of light I never said that she had positive positive energy she was always cheerful and had the contagious smile on her face
00:18:28 and had the contagious smile on her face regardless of how she was feeling they said she was funny she made me laugh her facial expressions were hilarious and she didn't care about
00:18:39 hilarious and she didn't care about making a fool of herself in fact I see her expressions in my son
00:18:55 there's absolutely no rush shammed no rush they said she was caring that she
00:19:09 rush they said she was caring that she would make you feel second-best now she would never make you feel second-best excuse me she was always thinking about her friends they said that she would often give you sentimental presence my
00:19:25 often give you sentimental presence my sister was beautiful an ambitious talented young woman who wanted to succeed in a machina career and start a family she had fallen in
00:19:37 and start a family she had fallen in love and had so much to look forward to naturally as an older brother I was very protective but the truth is I was
00:19:49 protective but the truth is I was relieved she had met someone you just pause for a second Ahmed we're not picking up your voice properly it's very difficult you just if you just put it in front of where you're going to be and
00:20:00 front of where you're going to be and then let's try and forget about it okay all right so I'll just start from there Lise yes my sister was beautiful an ambitious talented young woman he
00:20:12 an ambitious talented young woman he wanted to succeed in a marketing career and start a family she had fallen in love and had so much to look forward to naturally as an older brother I was protective but the truth is I was
00:20:24 protective but the truth is I was relieved she had finally met someone decent and most importantly she was in love and she was happy I also know my sister was brave some people say she was
00:20:36 sister was brave some people say she was fearless but I believe she felt the fear and she did it anyway in the year before she passed away she climbed an active volcano
00:20:47 volcano she went to abseiling joined her friends on a small plane across the Caribbean plus psych ward and jet skied around Mexico we went paragliding together with
00:20:58 Mexico we went paragliding together with friends once in Spain and of course she went first she loved adventures and she lived for the moment my sister was confident and strong she wasn't afraid to speak up or speak her
00:21:10 wasn't afraid to speak up or speak her mind and was very secure in her words she had an inner confidence and had grown into a strong ambitious woman she worked hard in her career and it was
00:21:21 worked hard in her career and it was paying off on the 15th of June she was due to have an interview for a dream job of a reputable brand company my sister was selfless she was loyal to her family
00:21:33 was selfless she was loyal to her family in the end my mum and to her friends she was always looking out for others and would figure out a way to help to help you even if the solution wasn't immediately obvious she could have moved
00:21:47 immediately obvious she could have moved out at the flat in Granville tower but she stayed to look after our mum she was brave she was strong and she was selfless my sister was all of those things in the 14th of June last year our
00:22:01 things in the 14th of June last year our father passed away from an aggressive form of cancer when Marion was only eight and so several years ago she raised money for a charity for men with cancer by doing a 5k Betsy run but she
00:22:13 cancer by doing a 5k Betsy run but she obviously had to be different and she couldn't run in normal sportswear and decided to dress her SuperMario if you have a Nintendo you know which cad/cam
00:22:24 have a Nintendo you know which cad/cam referring to a short chubby plumber with big eyebrows and big black moustache nothing like her she ordered the costume and most are separately funnily enough
00:22:37 and most are separately funnily enough the question arrived on time but not the mustache ma'am Miriam could not possibly run a Super Mario without the mustache so she rushed around last minute looking for one before the run after raising
00:22:51 for one before the run after raising money and finishing the race she posted the words this was for you dad and social media
00:23:09 but she wasn't she also used her memory of dad in a positive way by filling a role of a grandfather to my son she recalls that always buying her a Kinder Surprise egg I continued this tradition
00:23:21 Surprise egg I continued this tradition by buying one for my son every time he came to Grenville sometimes she would get a little carried away and buy the larger one or the box of three what was
00:23:33 larger one or the box of three what was amusing she would end up eating the chocolate with my son and we do wonder was the Kinder Surprise really for her or my son the truth is she loved kids
00:23:44 or my son the truth is she loved kids and acted like a kid around my son she would be really excited when my son's birthday was approaching in fact she started planning three months in advance each year and that was man for you she
00:23:59 each year and that was man for you she always loved the challenge even if it meant being taken out of her comfort zone she had suffered from asthma but that did not stop her taking part in tough mudder which is an intense circuit
00:24:11 tough mudder which is an intense circuit full of challenging obstacles in mud this was just not a race that's an epic teamwork challenge perfect for someone like her before the race started she
00:24:23 like her before the race started she strapped her asthma pump to her vest during a particular difficult obstacle she had an asthma attack in the water lost to ask map on her team took her to
00:24:34 lost to ask map on her team took her to the ambulance and as soon as the medics stabilized her you would think she would stop but she continued ran off as if nothing happened and finished the last four and a half miles that was Miriam
00:24:46 four and a half miles that was Miriam for you she was important what was important to her she was determined to finish that race of her team on the 13th of June 2017 Miriam had come over to my
00:24:59 of June 2017 Miriam had come over to my house in fact a couple of hours before the fire and we had a very nice evening with my family and we FaceTime my mum
00:25:11 with my family and we FaceTime my mum and we planned the arrangements to see my mum on the weekend as we'd always do all he's done
00:25:19 little did I know that would be the last time I see them 14th of June 2017 on the
00:25:38 time I see them 14th of June 2017 on the night of the fire my wife woke up worked me up of a call from Miriam my sister told me there was a fire in the building and that she had already left there flat
00:25:50 and that she had already left there flat I could tell by her voice she was scared and anxious I knew something was terribly wrong and I told her to get the hell out of the building
00:26:11 I told her to get the hell out of the building and I was on my way at this
00:26:22 building and I was on my way at this point I never forget the feeling after I got off the phone of her I felt very sick and I knew something was seriously wrong about even looking at knowing what
00:26:33 wrong about even looking at knowing what was that happening we now know that based on the nine online course her and my mom were trapped in the top floor even before she called me before I could
00:26:44 even before she called me before I could even leave or within approximately half an hour from the start of the fire I was thinking what the hell went wrong immediately after immediately after
00:26:56 immediately after immediately after speaking to Miriam my friend on the fifth floor called and told me he was out of Grand Vitara and I was on fire a friend who I consider a brother who lived in that building for over 30 years
00:27:07 lived in that building for over 30 years who has experience of living in that building and have experienced four fires before the refurbishment now I'm certain the building was compromised my mom and
00:27:19 the building was compromised my mom and sister lived on the 22nd floor and he lived on the fifth to have the building covered in flames top to bottom just verified my concerns that my family were in real danger
00:27:30 that my family were in real danger having myself lived in the tower for over 20 years I just knew something wasn't right this time before the refurbishment there had been several
00:27:41 refurbishment there had been several fires but none the way she was describing furthermore they never spread they were always contained in the flat where they started not that I know of
00:27:52 where they started not that I know of any spreading previously so rapidly the drive to Grandpa felt from home felt so long and I was inundated with phone calls from residents ex residents and
00:28:04 calls from residents ex residents and friends all of which many of them were coming come in to Grenville heading down as well I had now arrived and had seen the backlog the congestion the gridlock of emergency vehicles and got out the
00:28:17 of emergency vehicles and got out the car I remember running so fast towards grandfa Tower yeah it felt so slow while on the phone to me maryam started to calm down and remain patient
00:28:28 to calm down and remain patient she was waiting to be rescued meanwhile
00:28:40 she was waiting to be rescued meanwhile I was trying to provide reassurance comfort and hope I not explained the horrifying Inferno that I could see from where I was standing I was trying to
00:28:51 where I was standing I was trying to protect her I was so close to grim fall so close to the fire in fact I was inside the area cordoned off to the public because I refused to move there
00:29:05 public because I refused to move there were many times I thought about running inside but it was clear this would have been suicide as previously mentioned I know I know now Marion was protecting me by not telling me the fact she was already
00:29:16 telling me the fact she was already trapped in by fire on the top floor even before I arrived on the site she had become very selective in the information to tip and she told me and did not display her true emotions she was
00:29:30 display her true emotions she was protecting me by not telling me the flat sheet where she took refuge had quickly become a deathtrap lots of smoke thick back black smoke and coughing but she
00:29:41 back black smoke and coughing but she never mentioned she could see fire but it was clear she knew it was coming I can only presume based on the person I knew her to be she was trying to keep my
00:29:56 knew her to be she was trying to keep my mum calm doing what she does best just to help others and be the selfish person we all knew and loved
00:30:10 the selfish person we all knew and loved under these horrifying circumstances I later found out from the last phone call between my wife and Miriam shortly after
00:30:21 between my wife and Miriam shortly after the first nine online call man was clearly distressed and my mum was freaking out distressed by the fact that flat was gone
00:30:32 flat was gone distressed are all memories of my father and childhood memories were gone everything was happening so fast and clearly time was our enemy at this point
00:30:45 clearly time was our enemy at this point you start thinking about the irreplaceable items like the trophies shed won from the various sporting tournaments like tennis football the milestones that she has achieved like a graduation sentimental things like their
00:30:58 graduation sentimental things like their birthday videos have made her that my dad compartment we were so young be gone and the jury that was passed down from family generations gone there was no any
00:31:13 family generations gone there was no any murmur of a mum that passed away on that night I actually felt like my father died again and the large part of our life the important memories were wiped out I raised in a matter of minutes as a
00:31:27 out I raised in a matter of minutes as a big brother and a father figure Miriam would always call me when she was in trouble or needed help and we always knew we would get through anything however for the first time in my life I
00:31:39 however for the first time in my life I was in a situation where my family was in trouble and I had to run out of options and answers there was nothing that I could do no matter what I said the truth is
00:31:50 do no matter what I said the truth is they were both trapped they had become trapped very early on and there was no way out
00:31:54 way out I recall moments of silence between between us on the phone and I want you to remember what I'm going through this we were a very close-knit family and
00:32:05 we were a very close-knit family and always protected each other
00:32:10 so you imagine if you can't help your family imagine all you can do is simply wait watch and listen to the inevitable death penalty live just while I'm
00:32:22 death penalty live just while I'm downstairs looking up listening and watching witnessing your neighbors traps standing by the window calling for help seeing the uncontrollable and erratic flames moving violently and just hoping
00:32:33 flames moving violently and just hoping they would just stop rather than wrapping the whole building and seeing my family home where we grew up completely on fire rain was a fighter
00:32:44 up completely on fire rain was a fighter and that might prove that I told her whatever you do keep the phone line open it was my way of being there with them I mean what else could I do I established
00:32:58 mean what else could I do I established very early on speaking to the emergency services myself that the probability of survival let alone against saved from the top floor was virtually zero I had to feel like I was there with them mine
00:33:10 to feel like I was there with them mine was very healthy and had a passion for fitness
00:33:13 fitness in fact her the gym was her second home as fearless as she was I knew she had a decision to make that final night I believe she could have made it out but I
00:33:26 believe she could have made it out but I but I knew she would have she would never leave our mum and would not have made it down due to her medical needs she stayed back and comforted my mom and
00:33:37 she stayed back and comforted my mom and she has always done although we were both carriers for our mother it goes without saying that she was the primary carer
00:33:53 on my final call with Miriam despite her suffering
00:34:01 suffering despite her gradual deterioration despite her loss of consciousness she persisted they let me know that she was still there she started fading away from
00:34:22 still there she started fading away from me rather rapidly but she kept going all the way until she was no longer audible she became started to mumble started
00:34:36 she became started to mumble started banging the floor and then finally no longer responsive he was at this point I presumed I'd lost my mum at the same
00:34:47 presumed I'd lost my mum at the same time but then about 20 seconds laya for the first time that early morning I heard my mom's voice she was struggling
00:34:59 heard my mom's voice she was struggling for breath just take a pause for a second ami
00:35:15 she was struggling for breath and said her last words I can't breathe I can't breathe that was the last time I heard their voice she was so frightened that
00:35:30 their voice she was so frightened that she had not spoken prior to this I
00:35:41 remained on the phone and all I could hear shortly afterwards was the crackling of the fire penetrating the windows fire violent fire strong enough to shift the kitchen equipment while I
00:35:54 to shift the kitchen equipment while I was outside listening and looking up helplessly the truth is Maryam could have disconnected that call but I'm forever grateful knowing that I was with
00:36:05 forever grateful knowing that I was with her all the way and that I know she was with my mum and even though I was not in that room with them I felt as close as I could have been
00:36:16 I felt as close as I could have been once again she was thinking about others we were together right until their last breath she was doing what she always naturally did which was to protect family there is I who made the decision
00:36:30 family there is I who made the decision to connect the call to disconnect the call almost an hour after they had gone I was just listening to fire but I was
00:36:41 I was just listening to fire but I was just hoping maybe just maybe someone would rescue them but by that time that would have been suicide for whoever did
00:36:52 would have been suicide for whoever did attempt to go in so having already lost my dad with the exception of my wife I lost it to post that I lost the two most
00:37:05 lost it to post that I lost the two most important women in my life that night my mom Isla and my sister Miriam my mum and my sister were murdered and cremated on the 14th of June last year
00:37:20 to be more specific my mum and sister were poisoned by the smoke they were burnt
00:37:26 burnt they were cremated I had to listen to them suffer and had to listen to them die and to watch Grand Hotel burn for a couple of days but particularly the top floors if that's not torture then I'm
00:37:40 floors if that's not torture then I'm not really sure what else is I had not slept for over 24 hours since the very first phone call and I knew they were no longer here there was no need for me to
00:37:52 longer here there was no need for me to go around running hospital around Hospital was hoping that we'll find them but I did anyway because my friends were trying to be hopeful and I was in too much shock to explain what I just been
00:38:03 much shock to explain what I just been through approximately three months later all I got back was fragments of bone and
00:38:14 all I got back was fragments of bone and muscle tissue before that I was hoping maybe just maybe I'll get to hold them one more time
00:38:23 so for all those year for the years we spent rebuilding our lives have started to grow our family I would have never predicted that I'll be working with the coroner and her team that consists of archaeologists and anthropologists Peace
00:38:36 archaeologists and anthropologists Peace in my family back together bone for bone as if they were dinosaurs and I have to thank the coroner and her team for
00:38:48 thank the coroner and her team for helping me get back every single piece although that obviously wasn't possible we recovered the majority of them so I have somewhere to go to pray and pay my respects they were
00:39:03 to pray and pay my respects they were not laid to rest for several months due to the agonizing weight of identifying them
00:39:12 how did the fire start
00:39:15 why didn't anyone save them what if there's a fire in our home what would we do what win is grandpa going to finish and what is justice how do you answer
00:39:29 and what is justice how do you answer these questions from your five-year-old son what would your answer be we are still waiting for answers almost a year
00:39:40 still waiting for answers almost a year later
00:39:41 later how does not having answers make you feel my son has become a little bit too articulate for me has a very special
00:39:54 articulate for me has a very special relationship or had a very special special relationship with his auntie Miriam and his grandmother Islam and they loved him so much and this is part of his grieving process
00:40:06 and this is part of his grieving process and now he's trying to make sense of it all as I said earlier my father passed away over 20 years ago and it felt like we lost him again as all our memories
00:40:18 we lost him again as all our memories with him were destroyed and wiped out within such a short space of time it's traumatic to have lost a parent at such a young age it's traumatic for a woman to have lost her husband for approximate
00:40:29 to have lost her husband for approximate approximately 20 years and then to lose all the memories they had of him absolutely painful it was more than 72 lives lost there was also the memories
00:40:40 lives lost there was also the memories which were irreplaceable I recall mom had the photo of my dad next to her bed and so did my mum for all the handbags and shoes and jewelry that Miriam loved the things that
00:40:52 that Miriam loved the things that mattered the most to her on that night with the loss of her father's memory and caring for our mother all of a sudden all of the material things she enjoyed were irrelevant and meaningless so you
00:41:04 were irrelevant and meaningless so you tell me how could I possibly grieve when I have to fight Miriam was one of the many who voiced concerns about health and safety prior to the fire she was influential and encouraging people to
00:41:15 influential and encouraging people to come together and raise those issues there was a barbecue arranged for residents of the tower and she felt so strongly for being to be there and to sure people that got together
00:41:26 sure people that got together on the night of the fire I heard her voice for the last time today Miriam has no voice now I am her voice now I'm voicing my concerns per se for homes
00:41:38 voicing my concerns per se for homes across the country to ensure we don't have another grand fall or another national we've been here before let's not kid ourselves this is a lot bigger
00:41:50 not kid ourselves this is a lot bigger than just getting justice for my family whatever that may be it is about accountability and addressing institutional failings no family and I mean no family should have to experience such a catastrophic event
00:42:01 to experience such a catastrophic event which was entirely preventable this was not an accident
00:42:09 you will have noticed by now I have spoken very briefly about my mum Islam I honestly do not have the mental strength or the courage to go into too much detail about her I find the extremely
00:42:24 detail about her I find the extremely difficult to even share a photo publicly but maybe with time that would change I'm simply not ready to feel I'm simply
00:42:35 I'm simply not ready to feel I'm simply not ready and I feel like some things are best kept private at this stage in our grieving process but I will say a few things which I'm comfortable to share with the public
00:42:47 share with the public my mum Aaron were inseparable and it's difficult to talk about men without talking about my mum mum was not in the best of health and naturally mom always prior to has a
00:42:58 and naturally mom always prior to has a prioritized her before everything she had a good job and had the financial means to move out but chose to live with my mum and stay there she was offered the job opportunity in Dubai but declined the offer because she couldn't
00:43:09 declined the offer because she couldn't leave and would never leave our mum she would ensure mum had everything she needed before going out with friends going to the gym going for dinner or even going for her Portuguese lessons
00:43:20 even going for her Portuguese lessons the fact is family came first for Miriam and as recently as last night we found a whatsapp message from Miriam that said and I quote I will drop what I'm doing
00:43:31 and I quote I will drop what I'm doing family comes first
00:43:38 my mum touched many hearts and was a strong woman who raised Miriam and I on her own since my father passed she was very youthful both inside and out she
00:43:49 very youthful both inside and out she was also a great authentic Egyptian cook in fact we started recording her recipes only several months before the fire in
00:44:01 only several months before the fire in fact it was so important to continue those Egyptian our Egyptian culture and tradition
00:44:14 my mum lived in Grand Hotel for approximately thirty four years she loved to cook for people including neighbors friends and family we all loved her cooking and we always remember
00:44:26 loved her cooking and we always remember and missed the taste of her food and finally sir the purpose of sharing this story was to make sure that you had just
00:44:39 story was to make sure that you had just an idea of how special my mum and sister were to me it's difficult to comprehend both of these women were taken from me due to a complete catalogue of cuts a complete catalogue of failures across
00:44:51 complete catalogue of failures across the spectrum that resulted in the loss of lives in the most horrifying way possible it's easy to say we did everything we could after the inferno but what is being ignored is the failure
00:45:02 but what is being ignored is the failure to acknowledge the true and utter incompetence leading up to this preventable tragedy the repeated warnings about health and safety the repeated warnings about weak building regulations that been under urgent review for years the complacency the
00:45:16 review for years the complacency the financial conflict of interest the neglect the neglect by everyone that was involved in the decision-making process the failure to warn that people's lives were put at risk the lack of compliance
00:45:29 were put at risk the lack of compliance it's probably a little bit - for two kinds more like the complete non-existence of compliance because there is no compliance and the misconception that those live in social
00:45:41 misconception that those live in social housing are simply a group of uneducated and second-class citizens that should be thankful for living in the Royal Borough consider Chelsea
00:45:49 so let me remind you that Miriam was born bred raised and educated and I'll be casein a borough she loved to live in she lived in Brent for all her life and died in Granville at the young age of 27
00:46:00 died in Granville at the young age of 27 yeah let me remind you she lived in a community she embraced let me remind you she was a successful graduate from roehampton university an obsessed sports woman a primary carer for our mother a
00:46:11 woman a primary carer for our mother a young marketing manager making positive strides in her early career a volunteer a charitable person a selfless person that was always very excited to do something for others and important an influential voice before the ground for
00:46:23 influential voice before the ground for tower fire she was a young woman in love a young woman ready to settle down she was truly a byproduct of our amazing
00:46:34 was truly a byproduct of our amazing mother who provided unconditional love and taught us invaluable life lessons she was my baby sister babe marry me Lori
00:46:46 [Applause]
00:47:18 [Applause] thank you very much indeed that was a really beautiful and moving commemoration and I could tell how much courage it took for you to tell us all about your sister and your mother thank
00:47:29 about your sister and your mother thank you very much indeed now we have five minutes to get our breaths back please yes of course
00:47:48 you
00:55:10 yes mr. Richland every day
00:55:16 so we now have a further commemoration to residents of flat 203 Rania Ibrahim Fatiha Hassan and hanya has said and can
00:55:29 Fatiha Hassan and hanya has said and can I introduce Hassan Howard Hassan who was Ronnie as husband and fethiye and hania's father thank you good morning thank you good morning everyone
00:55:42 thank you good morning everyone I'm here today was my left hand my my problem my friend knows Absalom and I have my friend Muhammad Rasool and his
00:55:56 have my friend Muhammad Rasool and his wife Munir is my wife friend on all her other four sisters Roni a friend Israel but you're all very welcome thank you
00:56:08 but you're all very welcome thank you now we've got a number of parts of this commemoration think there's going to be a video and some statements or some
00:56:19 a video and some statements or some commemorations from you and Manisa is that Venera it's that right so in your own time how would you like to start yeah yes my name is Hassan now it hasn't
00:56:33 yeah yes my name is Hassan now it hasn't I live in two or three grand for me on my wife Rania I'm a dad Ibrahim on my Twitter fortune he has an awesome yes we
00:56:51 Twitter fortune he has an awesome yes we be moved here in 2015 do top June 2015 the first time we get the offer we go me
00:57:04 the first time we get the offer we go me my wife and my two kids to visit Francisco
00:57:12 in the same minute when we be nervous terrible if my wife advising she tell me has an y victim do dis feel that I tell
00:57:26 has an y victim do dis feel that I tell her didn't make to my work it's next everything if you want to go to your sister we've been to my work if I want to come at any time I can come you she asked me
00:57:41 at any time I can come you she asked me one question
00:57:44 the same minute if the fire or what we have to do then asked one of my friend
00:57:56 have to do then asked one of my friend he being lived there in 16 years that stole a not us ha job salam my homies been there for 40 years when I've
00:58:09 homies been there for 40 years when I've worked my friend and I asked him my wife she asked me at least question if the fire what we have to do tell me her son
00:58:20 fire what we have to do tell me her son don't worry this building is being safe if the next flood next to you spin fire is nothing happened to wife in your blood I come
00:58:31 happened to wife in your blood I come back to my wife I her tell her listen love I'm going to leave the flood very nice for you and for my two kids don't
00:58:43 nice for you and for my two kids don't worry she say do you know anywhere you go I do I do you stay I'm going to be with you I think just the only mistake I
00:59:00 with you I think just the only mistake I do a bridge to cross filter I refreshed of the flood I take the floor in the world the ceiling I make it nice
00:59:14 world the ceiling I make it nice I'm a beautiful for my two daughter I make everything for my children my wife my wife she didn't come to visit the
00:59:27 my wife she didn't come to visit the flood I tell her as his day where we staying now and he come the way we move in and I'm sure you're going to be liked
00:59:38 in and I'm sure you're going to be liked at that time I beam used my work flat because his pain is free I pin spent three months there I continued the last
00:59:50 three months there I continued the last few weeks in Ramadan to stain almanach well has been working does the flood there well under my to dot on my wife he
01:00:03 there well under my to dot on my wife he tell me daddy we need to stay there we need to stay there I tell him no we have to go to overflow this is not our flood we come in the day
01:00:15 this is not our flood we come in the day and we go there and we say bismillah that's Amin in Arabic from me on my wife on my to daughter my wife when she walk
01:00:27 on my to daughter my wife when she walk him like everyone he know she always she tried to stop my pain she never complained about anything
01:00:39 complained about anything she always played Chile life trade or she dies pray how come you the way she going I'm not the standing in a crime
01:00:52 going I'm not the standing in a crime because my wife she's going my wife I'm like it is very lucky of course the way it's going I wish if I go like him and I wait for my dish we
01:01:06 go like him and I wait for my dish we going to the graph he'll toss my wife she's happy my kid she's happy we started a normal life like any family
01:01:17 started a normal life like any family stories life we've been happy I come in every morning to go to the work my wife she come to me
01:01:28 to go to the work my wife she come to me in the door she put her hand like my two brothers working the hunt and she pray for me actually say look after yourself
01:01:39 for me actually say look after yourself might be it will be daddy we love you and I go all the way down to work work in ten minutes and I've been calling my
01:01:51 in ten minutes and I've been calling my wife how you doing how's the kids you say don't worry about us you eat I tell her don't worry about me how is food here I'm here do it we start in October
01:02:08 here I'm here do it we start in October 5th so if we start in October but here you have to start to go to the nursery
01:02:20 we took foot here me on Harmon sister to go to the nursery we got advice from the nursery the first
01:02:31 we got advice from the nursery the first day you have to stay with your kids because something new for him but she never ever given me a hard time from the
01:02:43 never ever given me a hard time from the day one
01:02:44 day one fatiah straight away enjoy a hard day she been happy when she come after she finished she come to my work she's part-time she said daddy is amazing I
01:02:55 part-time she said daddy is amazing I like it when I go back I tell her this is my daughter you going to start now for first time three days a week and
01:03:06 for first time three days a week and then we'll be full-time store no I took her every day I enjoy she walk with me all the way for
01:03:17 I enjoy she walk with me all the way for the graffito - honey we've been talking I never take
01:03:33 - honey we've been talking I never take food here as the child I talked to her like pig like the other when we come in to the traffic we need to cross the road
01:03:45 to the traffic we need to cross the road I tell how we have to wait here mama because the man is red and we Bea hue 18 I remember one day we late for her
01:03:59 I remember one day we late for her school named Lena for my work and we need to cut the road she hold me in my hand she said daddy the man is red
01:04:10 right here to a school delivery unharmed
01:04:21 right here to a school delivery unharmed she'll come in two week huh with honey as usually come to visit to me at work we enjoyed the time effort here she knew at the time
01:04:33 here she knew at the time Leah every day Blaine why she didn't go with her sister then Ania starts to go to the same history I come every morning
01:04:45 to the same history I come every morning to hold but here here oh no hit a dust
01:04:56 to hold but here here oh no hit a dust time I take the week on Saturday Sunday off and I take Tuesday to make it for my wife I tell to my work I've been working
01:05:10 wife I tell to my work I've been working from 2004 I've been working very hard I want to spend time with my kids can I go back to first time but last time his
01:05:21 back to first time but last time his Absalom is my money many say he does is fine we've been sitting in our flat in field tour when the weather is nice I
01:05:34 field tour when the weather is nice I take foot here and hanya Rania we'd not have any plan yes we walk out and we go past the feet we take us to enjoy the
01:05:45 past the feet we take us to enjoy the time Tuesday raineesha star to have English course and she does that she didn't go because shown to spend the time with me
01:06:03 I'm going to stop here and I'll finish my talk after to let you to see the photo we're going to be in the screen in
01:06:15 photo we're going to be in the screen in the minute to tell you how we believe how we mean happy how we lost my wife my two daughters
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01:22:22 the first time I meet Rania she come in in my eyes beautiful she's injured she's not like this is Mormon person she's
01:22:33 not like this is Mormon person she's always smiling and straight away you say that I can you mind me from the day one I know her she's have big heart I know
01:22:46 I know her she's have big heart I know she's good woman I know she can't be someone he can't go with you all your life it's my wife she's she's she's she's very good person she's she's very
01:22:59 she's very good person she's she's very good wife she's very good mom she's very good sister she's she tried to be
01:23:11 we be married only five year but this honey is everything for when I meet this
01:23:28 honey is everything for when I meet this lady all my life has been changed at the
01:23:41 lady all my life has been changed at the beginning we just used to meet in the left Salaam and we smile and all thinking my son and her daughter fatir they used to go same last ring she said I'm going agency or Egypt I got Egypt as well
01:23:52 well my husband is Egyptian she's like no you gotta be kidding and then we exchanged numbers from that day onwards Rania was everything [Music]
01:24:05 [Music] we do the basically actually wedding we didn't do like big party we do it in them in in our mosque after that we have
01:24:19 them in in our mosque after that we have the good news your wife she's pregnant then fat he is only 5th of October 2012 fatty a spa walking and she's getting to be like
01:24:33 walking and she's getting to be like play in here take this from here to put here to take this from here to move there in that time Ronnie she's been pregnant and she doing
01:24:46 Ronnie she's been pregnant and she doing very well fat here she is very happy she going to have brother or sister
01:24:56 and then in for June 2014 honey is coming out to be in this life for three years ago we have we have a
01:25:14 for three years ago we have we have a beautiful time
01:25:20 hi children we picked them up from nursery like oh and everyone will see them to fall in love with them especially honey yeah cause she was cute and she'll be you know they had manners
01:25:34 and she'll be you know they had manners they had respect you know they just feel like they're my own children until in 2015 Ramadan the council say you have to
01:25:48 2015 Ramadan the council say you have to move where you have two rows your choice I say okay me my wife sat here hernia we come to visit the clownfish tour
01:26:01 we go there I see one of my friend he living in Grandville tour and I get in very happy I say to my wife let's go
01:26:12 very happy I say to my wife let's go stay here my wife she refused from the same minutes she tell me if it's fair on what we have to do and I when I see how absalom I see Abdullah say okay at least if I've been at work I've been away I
01:26:25 if I've been at work I've been away I know someone you look after my kids
01:26:29 we move to the Garfield tour earlier she following her sister fit here if what he or she wearing t-shirt Anisha won't wear the same one if what
01:26:40 Anisha won't wear the same one if what he is doing what honey she want to drink water if what he want to sleep honey she want to sleep if what he or she say I love you mama Anna she said I love you mama hanya
01:26:53 Anna she said I love you mama hanya she'll go to the same nursery with a fat here you can see how these two girls enjoyed the time in in the nursery
01:27:04 enjoyed the time in in the nursery Lokesh she doing the job here doing the job here was her mom this is mom she helped him playing you can decide how it
01:27:20 helped him playing you can decide how it just toggle with how is happy Easter child four and half and serious why does this happen to him why why
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01:27:37 [Music] what is happening Garfield Tower is not normal for me five is follow stop I know if I keep talking I'm not going get it running he
01:27:50 talking I'm not going get it running he need a buck I'm not going to get him but I have very good family I've been just
01:28:02 I have very good family I've been just as married for six years hernia happens the ten days before the fair the ages complete spheres the day before the fire
01:28:16 complete spheres the day before the fire the whole day I was with her we spent a whole day shopping and everything she would say like this is for husband my husband is coming back
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01:28:31 [Music] the food they ate on that night I cooked it for them well my wife she called me first time you say the fire down is that
01:28:42 first time you say the fire down is that I tell her take the hit song called oyster antenna tell her don't worry inshallah everything was going to be fine and the booty Marmite is good to be
01:28:53 fine and the booty Marmite is good to be huh but it what I see the fair what I see the building in his kind using a keep straightaway I take my bath water and I go to the airport when I mean
01:29:04 and I go to the airport when I mean inside the award I go to the duty-free to buy chocolate for my children I say my mind how can I go with empty hunt I
01:29:16 my mind how can I go with empty hunt I live here the same day I never put in my mind is my wife and my daughter is going to be lost why I say that because we in London in
01:29:28 why I say that because we in London in London in London
01:29:33 I didn't get to contact her until later and when she answered her phone she had my bushes hamdulillah manitto your life I was like stop thinking about me she
01:29:46 I was like stop thinking about me she never put herself first yes it stopped worrying about me I'm fine but you you calm down she was very calm as she said
01:29:57 calm down she was very calm as she said I will come down but we are waiting for the help she said there is no light it's all dark in here I couldn't hear the kids at the back row you think maybe
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01:30:21 never if this moment and this to child the other eighty six people die England filter is going to be forever until I
01:30:33 filter is going to be forever until I get to the Griffin in my heart my message for the judge please with work from your inside your heart to give
01:30:46 from your inside your heart to give justice for other family living like this to be safe we need to make sure that is not going to be happen again in London even in all
01:30:58 to be happen again in London even in all UK thank you
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01:34:10 yes before then I want to thanks instead of Salam Arab is with me from the day one from 2004 when I started
01:34:24 the day one from 2004 when I started working in the same place Absalom it's not just my my friend was my manager before what it's my brother I
01:34:35 my manager before what it's my brother I love him from inside my heart as my kid she do as well when fed here and honey you see him become one when running to
01:34:46 you see him become one when running to him straightaway I get a lot of advice from Absalom the first time when as you
01:35:01 from Absalom the first time when as you see in the video on that when I meet my wife
01:35:04 wife I come to Absalom on I asked him - traitor is a co head when I been in December following my wife to Egypt
01:35:17 December following my wife to Egypt about my brother situation his type it is ill he was his to Lake Absalom he always look after my two daughter my
01:35:31 always look after my two daughter my wife if I call him at anytime two o'clock in the morning Siri o'clock say Absalom but he and
01:35:45 Siri o'clock say Absalom but he and honey I need you straightaway even I
01:35:49 want to say to him sons in front of you
01:35:55 because the way he treated me the way is helped me speak brother he's good from him and I want to say sanction helmet on
01:36:08 him and I want to say sanction helmet on Muneera he keep teach my child water were on an English in care about my children and I want to say thanks for
01:36:22 children and I want to say thanks for you all and for G you and for all the community you've been helped to be able and we never ever we going to forget the Bible spin dyeing transistor thank you
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01:36:48 [Applause] very well thank you very much that was very very moving thank you I think manure might have wanted to say a couple of words do you want to say anything but I don't have to hello
01:37:10 anything but I don't have to hello everyone
01:37:11 everyone I don't know how everyone has been be doing this standing here or sitting there talking it's not easy I'm talking
01:37:25 there talking it's not easy I'm talking on behalf of my sister my friend my daughter Rania just my neighbor the moment I saw her she's one of the most
01:37:37 moment I saw her she's one of the most beautiful person you'd meet in your life she was different every time I looked at her as a wife I felt ashamed of myself whatever she was doing for her husband
01:37:50 whatever she was doing for her husband whatever she was doing to her children as a mother Rania feared us from day one our relationship became stronger and
01:38:02 our relationship became stronger and stronger through food because she loved cooking and feeding people I was blessed that I was the last person who saw Rania
01:38:14 that I was the last person who saw Rania I can't go on and on talking about Rania until tomorrow until after tomorrow maybe the next to a few months but the
01:38:28 maybe the next to a few months but the last few days running used to tell me I'm gonna die soon and when I die make sure you look after my children I said
01:38:39 sure you look after my children I said listen girl I don't want your children I want you I want you and your children you have to be there for your children not knowing what was gonna happen
01:38:53 on the day the whole day shopping as I said my husband my husband is coming back he was away for family reasons no
01:39:07 back he was away for family reasons no any other woman would let that happen to her stay away from her husband but she put her husband first and her family he used to hurt her look when the kids say we want Baba but she was bub and she
01:39:21 say we want Baba but she was bub and she was mama and they had their Baba throughout day and night we used to have breakfast together lunch together dinner together he used to drop the kids to
01:39:34 together he used to drop the kids to school together go shopping together eat together we used to share everything together with Rania on that day was her turn to cook iftar we were fasting
01:39:49 turn to cook iftar we were fasting pressures like my husband is coming soon and the house has to be spotless and clean I said you know I'll do the cooking it was such a beautiful day I
01:40:02 cooking it was such a beautiful day I cooked 9:30 and knocked on the door Rania his food make sure you eat she looked at me such a beautiful smile like
01:40:13 looked at me such a beautiful smile like you know this is the last time but I was like mmm it's not the last time Rania
01:40:25 I told her make sure you eat she stood outside the drift that you can't go down I said no you go in no no no you go down no no you go in I had to leave it was
01:40:40 no no you go in I had to leave it was sad they didn't take my phone with me the time I reached Ronny I was late when the phone went through she had my voice was like hamdulillah thumb got your life
01:40:54 was like hamdulillah thumb got your life like no stop thinking about me you you come down and Rania calm down in my neighbor's place she said I'm coming I've called for help
01:41:05 she said I'm coming I've called for help help is coming later
01:41:16 we went to the neighbor's house I left the kids started looking for Anya and the kids and Rania was nowhere to be seen
01:41:27 seen there's some bad people out they were playing with my emotions so we've seen run as fast attend ambulance we start praising the Lord Ronnie's alive
01:41:38 Ronnie's alive the kids are life and then someone calls me from the first book I have run his longest daughter and then we ran like mad people on the street didn't give up
01:41:50 mad people on the street didn't give up on Rania ten o'clock in the morning we went to rugby club and a friend of mine came running hugging me crying was like
01:42:01 came running hugging me crying was like it's fine I'm okay more he's like no showing me snapchat of Rania saying her last prayers and asking everyone to forgive her I pushed her away I said listen you can't do this you can't say
01:42:15 listen you can't do this you can't say this Rania is somewhere I'm not giving up on Rania my sister Fatma came in the morning she was crying I said why are
01:42:26 morning she was crying I said why are you crying I'm alive you know the stuff that got me the flood will get more I didn't know what she was crying non-stop she was crying said you know I wasn't in
01:42:37 she was crying said you know I wasn't in denial but I do want to give up on Rania looking at the news all the time the pictures coming up running the kids know
01:42:49 pictures coming up running the kids know there's somewhere there's some way in the hospital the best bit was two days later three days I prayed to God I said
01:43:00 later three days I prayed to God I said good you bring us in this world and you take us but if Ronnie still ours show me the sign and if she is no more show me
01:43:11 the sign and if she is no more show me the soil and I want to sleep and they say Rania all in white and the kids she was smiling like
01:43:24 was smiling like I'm no more hair money no more she told me honey I went first there were so hand the dream holding her babies is the way
01:43:37 the dream holding her babies is the way the Palmers told Hassan in the bathroom and then Fortier followed and then Rania went I woke up I said thank you God I
01:43:49 went I woke up I said thank you God I prayed and said thank you few months later Hassan told me he's going to see the remaining of runyan the kids I told her son can I see them
01:44:03 kids I told her son can I see them he said if you want to you can't go and see them but what's the point what is your last memory the picture you have in your heart in your mind every time you
01:44:16 your heart in your mind every time you sleep the memory you have is them smiling them running to you so you just gonna see pieces of bones
01:44:29 you didn't say you're gonna see Runyan the kids he said you're gonna see pieces of bones I was like okay if that's how
01:44:40 of bones I was like okay if that's how he should be then okay love Rania miss her dearly I'm so blessed we're so
01:44:51 her dearly I'm so blessed we're so blessed as a family that we heard her in our life once upon a time and all those neighbors all those families that we knew in the tower that no one has
01:45:04 knew in the tower that no one has answers my son asked me mama if we were still sleeping we would be with Ronnie and the kids now meaning he would be
01:45:15 and the kids now meaning he would be dead who started the fire mama I said good question how we gonna go back ever
01:45:26 good question how we gonna go back ever go back to that building are they going to build it again
01:45:31 mama why didn't I help auntie Rania and the kids I said that's another good question
01:45:39 question if you talk to the counselors they say explain and say it's okay who can't come and explain to my children and say it's okay my daughter's only two she woke up mama and tear on
01:45:50 only two she woke up mama and tear on your fighting and fire she's - Who am I meant to tell her what's there to answer and we hope we're all here asking the
01:46:03 and we hope we're all here asking the same question we want answers we want justice for our families neighbors mother's father's grandmother's nieces and nephews all of them we were one we
01:46:18 and nephews all of them we were one we were all one one community one happy family that we're waiting for answers please has hasn't said we want answers
01:46:30 please has hasn't said we want answers we want justice we want justice for our families our neighbors our friends then if you'll take hundred years we want justice I hope no we hope is going to be
01:46:44 justice I hope no we hope is going to be sooner than that please justice and let's hope that it's not going to happen to any other person out there other family because it hurts every single
01:46:55 family because it hurts every single time the person you eat with them breakfast lunch and dinner school hospital appointment when I used to look after my father-in-law when I'm away and I had no doubt my husband used to be at
01:47:06 I had no doubt my husband used to be at work
01:47:07 work and Ronny would go give him breakfast give him his medication sit down and chat with him yet she had to go college she had two kids she had her own house she had her sister to go to she had
01:47:18 she had her sister to go to she had friends but she might turn for everyone justice for everyone please justice thank you thank you very much [Applause]
01:47:44 [Applause] so the next commemoration is going to take a little while to organize and in fact we're going to change the order a little bit right but I'm sure through
01:47:57 little bit right but I'm sure through you I can thank all of these people for spending time with us in sharing their thoughts certainly it's been very valuable and very moving thank you very much indeed so after the break we will
01:48:11 much indeed so after the break we will move to the commemoration for Gloria traveese and right thank you very much on rice road
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02:17:58 yes sir thank you may I just update you before we continue on one or two things the first is we will begin very shortly the commemoration to Gloria Trevi Xan
02:18:12 the commemoration to Gloria Trevi Xan in flat 202 we will then have the commemoration for Isaac Paulus his family can only be here this morning
02:18:23 family can only be here this morning right and so we are going to have that commemoration and then break for lunch whenever that may be the family understand that some people may feel that they have to leave to go
02:18:35 may feel that they have to leave to go to prayers but I hope that as many as possible can stay with us the other thing is that the family of Raymond Bernard which is the last commemoration
02:18:47 Bernard which is the last commemoration today are feeling rather overwhelmed today and have asked if they may go first tomorrow morning given the timetable that we have today and tomorrow it will be perfectly
02:18:58 tomorrow it will be perfectly straightforward to accommodate them and they will move to tomorrow first thing all right thank you the other request is may we please commence tomorrow morning at 9:45 yes if that suits everybody else
02:19:11 at 9:45 yes if that suits everybody else certainly thank you very much this is the commemoration then for Gloria Trevi Jean in flat 202 mr. Mansfield is as you
02:19:28 Jean in flat 202 mr. Mansfield is as you see with us and I think he is going to introduce us to those on stage and what is about to happen yes that's right good afternoon so good afternoon all of
02:19:41 good afternoon so good afternoon all of you it is now of course just on midday so that's appropriate before the film in which you will see in a moment may I just take a time to introduce everybody
02:19:52 just take a time to introduce everybody who's here because the mother and the father don't speak English there's going to be some interpretation and as with one previous case I will go a little bit
02:20:05 one previous case I will go a little bit more slowly so at the far end is Gabriele an Italian lawyer in London who's going to be translating for Emanuela the mother of
02:20:17 translating for Emanuela the mother of Gloria and also for loris who is the father now at the end of the film
02:20:28 father now at the end of the film perhaps they will be forgiven for wanting to add something because they have been so overwhelmed by the intensity of feeling that they wish to
02:20:40 intensity of feeling that they wish to just add a postscript to the film so I'll hand the microphone back to Gabriele at that end so it can be translated at that point on my left is
02:20:53 translated at that point on my left is Cristina the family lawyer from Italy next to her is Laura who will be helping with translation for her as well and at
02:21:05 with translation for her as well and at the far end Rasheen and Eddie who are representatives of Hanover bond the law firm here who's handling the case so
02:21:16 firm here who's handling the case so therefore having said that introduction can I ask for the film to be shown thank you thank you
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02:21:52 gloria was a beautiful girl the kindness of her eyes and her big heart did not go unnoticed to everyone who met her she
02:22:03 unnoticed to everyone who met her she was a simple girl who loved laughing and joking she was 26 light hearted and loved life she loved her friends who
02:22:14 loved life she loved her friends who couldn't live without her advice and most importantly she loved her family mum dad
02:22:22 mum dad her brother Julia cousin Georgia and her grandmother Ida Lena and then of course her Marco who held her in his arms until the last breath to protect her she had a
02:22:35 the last breath to protect her she had a special bond with her mum Manuela and they were joined by destiny by sharing the same birthday after completing her studies and all the sacrifices she made to finish her degree she finally
02:22:47 to finish her degree she finally graduated in architecture and then came the time to prove herself she showed her creativity and passion through her design and restoration works and in the preservation of buildings rich in
02:22:59 preservation of buildings rich in history and art she also had a talent for watercolour drawing and the ability to draw freehand pencil portraits that looked so real and lifelike that they seemed like photographs
02:23:10 seemed like photographs [Music]
02:23:17 [Music] these are the talents that caught the interest of Peregrine brains architectural firm in London my name is Peregrine Brant hello a architects specializing in historic
02:23:29 architects specializing in historic building conservation which I've been doing for many years and we regularly get applications for people to work here at the moment we first saw Gloria clevis Anton's portfolio we realized that this
02:23:42 Anton's portfolio we realized that this was someone with an exceptional talent and that view was only reinforced when she came to see us for an interview we talked to her further and then when we
02:23:54 talked to her further and then when we offered her a job which we quickly did and when she joined us her work absolutely fulfilled the promise that we had seen unfortunately she was only with us for a very short time but even in
02:24:08 us for a very short time but even in natural time she demonstrated what she could do and what a great talent she had and actually had got here a drawing that she helped produce on the Royal Hospital
02:24:21 she helped produce on the Royal Hospital which was the building she was working on at the time that she died her loss is dreadful and the loss of that talent is something also had been more greatly
02:24:34 something also had been more greatly thank you very much the loss of Gloria has left an immense empty space it was human greed and immorality that caused
02:24:46 human greed and immorality that caused this enormous disaster claiming Gloria's life and future who when she understood her fate in her last telephone call said goodbye to her parents with the words be
02:24:58 goodbye to her parents with the words be strong I hug you both I love you [Music]
02:25:16 thank you for coming today
02:25:21 please take your time and speak to us
02:25:27 Bonjour not to him yo mr. Saleh cinto time to the Lord it'll kondaveedu
02:25:39 cinto time to the Lord it'll kondaveedu obviamente and kilos toffee window good morning everyone I feel a lot of pain in this room and I'm really sharing this with you know cosa que una cosa que
02:25:59 with you know cosa que una cosa que Fermont O'Malley superior que que su non-force estado para una specula the only people who can sue chest on colocasia chest oh no sorry by kanuto
02:26:13 colocasia chest oh no sorry by kanuto it's something that fills me with pain to know that had it not been for this speculation for what happened maybe this would have not happened to my daughter
02:26:24 would have not happened to my daughter una cosa que Imperato de la mia vita and no no the other eleven senior to uncle Gloria they may feel a queen deeper
02:26:35 Gloria they may feel a queen deeper quest ok yo Scotty I reckon on provid you charlatan on Paseo de ready non-profit Arabiya quality law
02:26:45 one thing I've talked to my children is not to feel any hate for anybody in life so I can say that I don't feel any hate at the moment I must say however they
02:26:56 at the moment I must say however they feel a lot of anger inside me
02:27:00 Europeans okay they're obviously awestruck Eva there came the Ventana Casa del generate a minimum as arrabiata
02:27:11 Casa del generate a minimum as arrabiata Anka became Yamaha guru sparrow came brave a tempo quanto me no prima que yo me Nevada caucus at a Leticia la possibility' di
02:27:23 caucus at a Leticia la possibility' di capelli de la culpa Vesta la ville attention I hope that this anger is going to be a positive anger because I would like to be able to find out
02:27:36 would like to be able to find out through this anger some help towards finding the truth and I hope also that because before I lived his half I before I die I will be able to find out exactly what's going on and when the truth lies
02:27:49 what's going on and when the truth lies yes okay don t stand Oliver and oh I think a questa I think a la villita I think authority to take well occasionally it's no Giudice yeah vacati
02:28:02 occasionally it's no Giudice yeah vacati Tantra persona lost on Nova chained Oh Amy I would've element k question sama having a improv a temple in Australia lorry a simply Grandin no no Posada my
02:28:17 lorry a simply Grandin no no Posada my pair all and we know puesto Yokoyama Beckham I know that the judge and all the lawyers there in this room are really working hard towards finding the
02:28:29 really working hard towards finding the truth and I'm really grateful for the work the job everybody's doing here however the pain that we're feeling inside his huge is Alan it's undescribable and knowing that someone is working for
02:28:42 and knowing that someone is working for us in this country to find the truth is a bit of consolation is helping us to go through this moment Gloria Arenado Garza kena divita a
02:28:53 Gloria Arenado Garza kena divita a malavita Gloria Nava so Familia Lemi K in seoul in chiba questa cosa a layman Kawano molto Janos Dante for Sega rata
02:29:07 Kawano molto Janos Dante for Sega rata para ver trovato subito anata mo lavoro
02:29:13 Gloria was a girl full of life she really loved life and although she means the Sun she missed the food and she missed Italy generally she was very happy for the work and the job that she
02:29:25 happy for the work and the job that she had found here so she was happily settled here she Junior Ranger noodle in Australia versus are you the
02:29:36 noodle in Australia versus are you the nostril intercept testimony where salad matrimonio gay focused on Gloria just ordinary proplica Jordan petrópolis shelter is that una semana de poppet k
02:29:48 shelter is that una semana de poppet k she said the best at el complejo de março el destino known poster that accordion is juniper questo the 14th of
02:29:59 accordion is juniper questo the 14th of June was mine and my husband 37th anniversary so I did ask Gloria to come back to Italy for our anniversary and she said she was gonna come a week later because it was marked the brother's
02:30:10 because it was marked the brother's birthday so his destiny I cannot blame anybody for this it was a dream it was meant to be that way yo conquest pair of
02:30:22 meant to be that way yo conquest pair of solo keiki Adichie's Oh
02:30:29 Kiev atoll a shelter dmitry kulikov our torah chocolate or cuanto me know in Cosenza in coach ensign Sesenta de cosas
02:30:42 Cosenza in coach ensign Sesenta de cosas responsable de cuenta persona and casa la vita bernie in the oppor Paco I really wish that the person or the
02:30:55 really wish that the person or the persons who took the decision to put that clotting in that tower that caused the death of so many people for no reason
02:31:01 reason they died in vain I really hope that that person of these persons will fill in the conscience the pain and the grief that caused all of us said by the same
02:31:13 that caused all of us said by the same pure multi altri multi Africa divan Australia only Giorno the local hora con con el oro co portamento a new mono la vita detente
02:31:24 portamento a new mono la vita detente persona Nellore Olav oro into t modi I call you me aa guru K questa cosa can be equally Koshien surrender no canto que
02:31:36 equally Koshien surrender no canto que tuvo know tratar de la vita daniel tree they respect or elevated le arti canto de la loire i hope that will happen here and Grenville could be used as an
02:31:47 and Grenville could be used as an example for those who are responsible in charge of people's lives when they made decisions generally speaking and the under standard have to have respect for everybody's life not their own and that would be an example for future
02:31:59 would be an example for future generations to understand how life should be respected no context you portray DM altima where Dan DOCA loco
02:32:10 portray DM altima where Dan DOCA loco visto fee Nora yes Colton dhoka locos cult Otto
02:32:13 cult Otto La Strada Gloria's similar multi ultra story equally trove of SuperFlow para la Reedy Gloria / ke only persona cadet opel corsa identical casa kara unger Gloria I could say
02:32:28 casa kara unger Gloria I could say really lot of things about glory in this room but after what I've seen today I would have heard today I can feel that everybody who spoke before me has just given a bit of a story of glory themselves so the paint I have seen this
02:32:40 themselves so the paint I have seen this morning is the pain of glory is the pain over all of us in the acoustic Punto yo I will to tql
02:32:51 acoustic Punto yo I will to tql occasionally Dino Provari audio the Claudio family's Illinois Stacy parodius arrabiata modo de poder de been llamo Queen turkey Mundi capilla de que la
02:33:04 Queen turkey Mundi capilla de que la culpa it's a comedy robbery la villita see all right I would like to wish to everybody who's in this room today not
02:33:16 everybody who's in this room today not to feel hate for anybody because hater doesn't do any favors I really wish to everybody inside feel anger instead and the anger would be a way to be a catalyst for finding the truth because
02:33:27 catalyst for finding the truth because that would be what everybody really wants
02:33:31 wants gratzi even a Bradshaw to give away thank you very much in a really hard goal of year [Applause]
02:33:58 [Applause] thank you very much indeed for coming and to tell us about Gloria we're very grateful to learn about her life and
02:34:09 grateful to learn about her life and career thank you very much indeed thanks
02:34:20 career thank you very much indeed thanks all of you for giving us this opportunity to speak in public thank you very much
02:34:51 so I'm not going to ask you to rise but I'm going to invite the family of Isaac Paulus to join us on stage yes thank you
02:35:23 and you'll remember the trigger warning I gave that during this video there is a short passage where the inside of the tower can be seen on the day before the
02:35:35 tower can be seen on the day before the fire
02:36:07 good morning everybody
02:36:20 mark good morning perhaps you just like to introduce who's with us this morning yes para los Isaac swallow and then nod
02:36:31 yes para los Isaac swallow and then nod us who's a sort of a relative Miri who's a colleague of mine at bat Murphy Gannett who's Palaces mother mezzo mezz
02:36:43 Gannett who's Palaces mother mezzo mezz eroticism goddesses mother as elechi whose policies grandmother and Hannah whose palace Ansari who's um Isaac's
02:36:56 whose palace Ansari who's um Isaac's sorry
02:36:57 sorry Isaac's aren't and they've been both huge support to the family since the tragedy and ongoing support for them and then at the end is Watson who's again a
02:37:11 then at the end is Watson who's again a sort of a relative thank you very much I think as far as this commemoration is concerned we're going to hear from
02:37:22 concerned we're going to hear from Paulus first and then we're going to hear from Helen there's gonna be a statement read from Helen fight by me read thank you Mary and then there's a
02:37:33 read thank you Mary and then there's a video I think there's also gonna be just a very very short and statement from not us as well very good so Paulus would you like to start would
02:37:47 so Paulus would you like to start would you like to bring that microphone in front of you so you're not leaning as his head father nothing was ever more important to me in my life I was proud
02:38:01 important to me in my life I was proud of myself
02:38:01 of myself with two lovely young boys growing up strong we named our firstborn Isaac in our mother tongue language Americ it means joy to love Isaac made us very
02:38:14 means joy to love Isaac made us very happy every day he was my spitting image he was my little man he was a great older brother to Lucas they were two
02:38:25 older brother to Lucas they were two years apart in age so they were playing together and we're friends my firstborn and I were very close I loved him so much
02:38:33 much and have so many plans for him and easy education I respect a good manner and good at the question I want my son to be a good strong man but we will never know
02:38:44 a good strong man but we will never know what was in store for Isaac just as in a Bible God tasted Abraham's face my ordering him to sacrifice his son Isaac but an angel prevented the act
02:38:56 son Isaac but an angel prevented the act as the last minutes for us there was no last minute there is no last minute danger Isaac my little boy was sacrified why may I know
02:39:07 little boy was sacrified why may I know and nothing but the truth will do the night was afire I said good night to the children and kiss them sleep they were
02:39:20 children and kiss them sleep they were good about going to bed they are go and they house was false I love whole silent as they drifted off that night was normal like any other night we were all
02:39:31 normal like any other night we were all asleep and was peaceful but suddenly I heard a noise in the corridor and we opened the door we were on the 18th floor in flat 153 there were people on
02:39:44 floor in flat 153 there were people on the load landing running and panicking they said there was a fire and that it was coming up the side of the building like a lot of other people that night I called the fire brigade I was told to
02:39:56 called the fire brigade I was told to wait and the fire brigade was aware and that they would come to get us I called our friends in the building and woke them up they left their floods and
02:40:07 woke them up they left their floods and their or alive I'm happy I saved their lives
02:40:11 lives but every day I asked myself the same question what if I had not listened and we had left right then and there my rock would be here today I will not be
02:40:23 would be here today I will not be sitting here telling you about my boy and our pain I should not be sitting here telling you this testimony we could have escaped and I am living with the
02:40:35 have escaped and I am living with the trauma of asking myself this question over and over again I have lost my five years old boy my firstborn before we had a chance to live together and growing together
02:40:47 together and growing together before my anger San Lucas has a chance to look up to his older brother before their mom had a chance to be cared for by her strong Faris born young man we
02:40:59 by her strong Faris born young man we had not yet begin our lives we were just at the beginning that night as the minute ticked by I called the fire brigade again and again the same
02:41:11 brigade again and again the same response they told me to stay put that is it all of us was were frightened our friends and neighbors was calling and telling me to get out the fire is
02:41:25 telling me to get out the fire is spreading too fast up the side of the building but I kept saying to them no they told me they are coming for us I was trusting the authorities Isaac was following me around the flood watching
02:41:38 following me around the flood watching me listen then a knock at the door at around 2 a.m. and a fire brigade at the door I was relieved and ready for our
02:41:49 door I was relieved and ready for our scape but no he said stay here and I advise us to put a blanket on the front door and that door shut again it was 45
02:42:00 door and that door shut again it was 45 minutes or so later before I finally got a call and advice to live right away we meet the fireman again on the front door I have given a statement about our
02:42:11 I have given a statement about our escapes so I will not go it's here but I want to say that my cell was beautiful little boy with so much potential I will
02:42:22 little boy with so much potential I will never forget Isaac's big beautiful eyes his calm looking wait for his dad to save them all but I didn't because I listened Authority and that makes me
02:42:34 listened Authority and that makes me angry are we not human I have to live with the guilt of not protecting my son every day I am broken and now the only thing that can make me whole again is to
02:42:46 thing that can make me whole again is to fight for truth and justice in exact name and for life for my living son Lucas and for their mother I have nothing left to left for except my other
02:43:00 nothing left to left for except my other Seleucus
02:43:01 Seleucus every time I looked at him I feel pain every time I look at their mother I feel pain too I try to smile and love to make away the pain from them to keep them
02:43:13 away the pain from them to keep them going but you have no idea what it's like I feel as though my head has been cut off as if I am dead but I have to be strong at us to keep going for my
02:43:25 strong at us to keep going for my Seleucus every single minute from that day I'm thinking what if we are not weighted what if that fireman at around 2 a.m. has taken us out
02:43:37 2 a.m. has taken us out instead of tholian told us to wait and shut the door what if and this what if makes my head and had exploded with pain and anger and
02:43:49 and had exploded with pain and anger and my heart shredded but I have to keep smiling don't cry don't show your emotion be strong be a man be a strong father
02:43:58 father my life is in Rainey's I have nothing to live for except Lucas and the memory of my beautiful innocent Isaac as I family we are missing a big pieces of our lives
02:44:09 we are missing a big pieces of our lives we cannot even bear to talk about what's happened Lucas looks away if he see Isaac's picture I cannot bear to look at myself in the mirror his mom has her
02:44:20 myself in the mirror his mom has her church and her face to keep her going on and I was only able to say my beautiful as I can Isaac name just three weeks ago I want the truth I will not have peace
02:44:31 I want the truth I will not have peace until I have the truth I want to know why I was physically stopped from leaving the flood at about 2:00 a.m. why were we kept inside for so long what was
02:44:43 were we kept inside for so long what was responsible for that recession I want answer if I are not listened to the fire brigade my son would have been likely alive today Isaac was a talented
02:44:54 likely alive today Isaac was a talented boy who brings joy and happiness to everyone now Maya has gone and my lover who always been a thin-film to mask the
02:45:05 who always been a thin-film to mask the everlasting pain my Isaac my boy my firstborn
02:45:09 firstborn rest in peace I'll do everything to fight for my son to bring I love you daddy [Applause]
02:45:48 who's going to go next
02:45:56 why don't you tell everybody who you are
02:46:04 again nah dogs from the outside Isaac seem like the average high road boy he went to school he had friends and not
02:46:15 went to school he had friends and not gum buddy who during the five years that I'd grown tonight and off him he proved he was much more than that he was special and hard-working I'm not sure where the ORS are at home or a sleepover
02:46:28 where the ORS are at home or a sleepover it didn't matter he wouldn't leave his seat without finishing his homework he enjoyed learning he enjoyed football Taekwondo and swimming and he did everything with passion and joy he never forgot about
02:46:41 passion and joy he never forgot about his friends you know I flaunted his talents he shared his loved and play he never wanted to leave our house I remember how him and my brother made plans to trick my parents to letting him
02:46:54 plans to trick my parents to letting him stay Isaac was like the perfect brother to me he always treated me with respect he was always energetic and he had fun
02:47:05 he was always energetic and he had fun during the 14th 2017 was meant to be a normal day you never think something like this could happen to someone you love I watch the news every day but
02:47:18 love I watch the news every day but nothing could prepare me for the reality of what happened that night at first I tried to convince myself that Isaac was ok now he was safe in a hospital somewhere but every time I called my
02:47:30 somewhere but every time I called my mother and asked for news it was with we're not sure from that month on all of our hearts had been filled with the void and the lives of all of us Isaac's
02:47:43 and the lives of all of us Isaac's mother father brother relatives my brother and my sister they've been changed forever well they're Isaac is not with us today
02:47:54 well they're Isaac is not with us today it brings me pieces here that he aren't whose position in heaven he was a loving boy and he'll always be living in my heart and I'll no forget him
02:48:07 [Applause]
02:48:32 Meiri I think you're going to try and do the newfangled lyrical of trying to read from a phone just take your time
02:48:43 from a phone just take your time so I'll just read a a very brief poem that's written by Helen who's the cousin of little Isaac before the film in Isaac's memory how can I start and what
02:48:57 Isaac's memory how can I start and what shall I say I have no words to describe it how much I miss you forever no longer running around and kicking a ball the Grenfell towers fire took you after
02:49:09 the Grenfell towers fire took you after all no longer to see you jumping like a spider-man no longer to see your excitement building a snowman neither playing at Christmas like Joseph and
02:49:21 playing at Christmas like Joseph and Mary nor playing at home hide and seek I miss your smile every week it was on Saturday we said our usual goodbyes not
02:49:32 Saturday we said our usual goodbyes not knowing that I will never be able to see you again instantly the Greenville towers fire snatched you away the joy and happiness you used to share with us
02:49:43 and happiness you used to share with us now there is a gap that shows your absence we all were hoping to see you grow young and old but that will not be
02:49:54 grow young and old but that will not be happening your life came to an end the 14th of June is on its way to remind us of sad memories what a horrible thing to
02:50:06 of sad memories what a horrible thing to remember and bear with forever your life has been swallowed alive by Grenfell towers fire let alone a child family and
02:50:17 towers fire let alone a child family and friends no one should go through such tragedies Isaac little angel rest in peace I love you and miss you forever
02:50:28 peace I love you and miss you forever Helen
02:50:33 [Applause]
02:50:40 we'll now watch the video commemoration which you've made
02:51:10 but in getting out kasanete here attached to them you know what yeah that's how I chillin yeah yes a khaki is
02:51:24 that's how I chillin yeah yes a khaki is hard that I got you did was hurt but my stop I felt good German beauty today you're on this tiny particle draconian
02:51:37 you're on this tiny particle draconian yummy Casa Keiko Erica metruff under D and DOMA traffic patrol the pin Memphis
02:51:48 and DOMA traffic patrol the pin Memphis e nest a filmy camuto learn take one and delay come on Phil go with dignity
02:52:04 this is the hardest thing I have ever to do but I decided to do it for myself I am a father of two son Isaac and because
02:52:20 am a father of two son Isaac and because Isaac was born on 22nd of September 2011 in Chelsea and Westminster Hospital he
02:52:31 in Chelsea and Westminster Hospital he was baptized in st. Mary London damaged young European alternate search what am i kind of most loveliest of man was the
02:52:44 i kind of most loveliest of man was the loveliest memories of Isaac was watching him dig for those worms and I remember coming into your classroom and he just began to read I just couldn't believe it
02:52:55 began to read I just couldn't believe it you know I couldn't believe you know how well he was writing how well he was reading and he just had so much to live for and such a great future in front of
02:53:06 for and such a great future in front of him I might say a few things in Isaac's own words that I've got here and he says I like to play outside and with the capes these are their superhero
02:53:17 with the capes these are their superhero capes and I know how to go on the tunnel and the climbing frame and I go on the pole I have a pole at my park and it's very long a beam lives on the second
02:53:29 very long a beam lives on the second floor and I live on the 18th I'm the biggest I'm near the 22nd floor 22 is a massive humongous number my favorite toys occurs also like he had such great
02:53:42 toys occurs also like he had such great friends at the school he had it's even easier and yup Sierra and of Ben they played together outside beautifully and every day you would find them down the
02:53:53 every day you would find them down the back of the garden playing football together running and screaming we always used to play it when he was 2 years old
02:54:19 used to play it when he was 2 years old his mother would say he is a charity fun but when he had to choose he choose Arsenal
02:54:30 Arsenal I think he wanted to be a doctor or professor
02:54:40 sometimes he would be you know argument says they had learn but they could always seem to work it out because they were such good friends and the children really love to spend time with each
02:54:52 really love to spend time with each other
02:54:53 other Isaac's favorite place was the outdoor part he he that's where he felt most at home and that's the place where he grew the most because he was such a strong little boy he hit he's hurt pokes he hid
02:55:13 little boy he hit he's hurt pokes he hid in a Berlin morgue he s so quite exciting your mouth a little Toni yes sir continue to believe I've got a new team
02:55:24 continue to believe I've got a new team in Afrikaans awesome could be what they know but I'm a good I need the my goodness
02:55:30 goodness let me talk him in African and I remember every morning he was so happy that he was at school he yes that was him every day and he had a great sense
02:55:42 him every day and he had a great sense of humor I remember his silly jokes and he made everybody laugh yeah he had a lot of friends in the class he was everybody's friend although he obviously had his select you his best friend of
02:55:55 had his select you his best friend of him D Isaac - Isaac prob I bet Isaac I hope he will come and I am sad sorry I
02:56:06 hope he will come and I am sad sorry I will miss you so so so much you were my best friend ever and so we were singing for you you will be forever
02:56:22 were singing for you you will be forever it by heart answer it by Bob and dad and my grandmom's heart I love you Isaac he
02:56:34 grandmom's heart I love you Isaac he took great care with his friends he was very
02:56:38 very I don't know caring like one day I saw him with a beam and he was tying the Cape the superhero cape around a Ben's neck and it was just so touching to see
02:56:49 neck and it was just so touching to see these two little boys and this little Isaac caring for him and he said I can't tie it too tight because it's dangerous to tie something to tightening around someone's neck and I was really touched
02:57:00 someone's neck and I was really touched by that I remember how excited he was when he was telling us about his dad's coming home son mm-hmm from Gopa yes yes he was really excited and then he showed
02:57:11 he was really excited and then he showed us his new trainers and that was for him yeah yeah he said and some more words of Isaac because I we write these on the snapshot he said my mummy speaks another
02:57:24 snapshot he said my mummy speaks another language she speaks Amharic I can speak amharic and what is a means go left so when he was playing with cars and things he'd use that expression
02:57:36 he'd use that expression he was very proud of his people yes I was very proud very often he spoke about he's you're saying my country yeah yeah about European and very proud of his
02:57:47 about European and very proud of his daddy yes really absolutely adore his dad's yeah me and Isaac we're very close people even say how much we look like
02:58:01 people even say how much we look like his expression his love our to 12 the pictures side-by-side you could not tell
02:58:12 pictures side-by-side you could not tell the difference Isaac was always coming home as I walked through the door he was always the first person to run to me and
02:58:26 always the first person to run to me and say hello daddy he would jumping in my arms and give me a big hug I can still feel and hear his voice daddy in my ear
02:58:42 feel and hear his voice daddy in my ear sometimes he blows the doorway to stop me from leaving the house he would stand in front of the door with
02:58:53 would stand in front of the door with his little arms out and say no you are not leaving me Isaac also was really very modest and humble little boy I
02:59:05 very modest and humble little boy I remember one day I found him in the in the classroom reading her The Gruffalo the story The Gruffalo to himself he had memorized most of nearly all the words but he could actually read he is so much
02:59:16 but he could actually read he is so much to live for he hid he was such a bright few future ahead of him because it's like his heart is full of God I mean he's a very nice boy like he's like my
02:59:30 he's a very nice boy like he's like my younger brother I miss him so much I always think about him I was crying about him I never said goodbye I never got chance to say I will
02:59:41 goodbye I never got chance to say I will miss you I never got the chance to say I love me no one can replace your friendship I hope the angel come to you everything about Isaac he had a gift for
02:59:52 everything about Isaac he had a gift for number four mathematics he was gifted in that area and he also attained a really high level of reading for his age with
03:00:04 high level of reading for his age with writing he found it a challenge at first but he wouldn't give up he just kept on trying and in the end he did it to a good standard so he had that I think he
03:00:16 good standard so he had that I think he had so much potential that said he hasn't had the opportunity to reach that because he really out of all the children in that year group he was the
03:00:27 children in that year group he was the shining star the one that stood out as having not only the intellectual capacity but it's sort of an emotional maturity that could take him far in life
03:00:43 good he always used to get mistakes and they always used to fix update he never he never gave up we play level together
03:00:56 he never gave up we play level together we also read books he was good in math her so loved a condo after school every Tuesday he used to go to Mass in cumin
03:01:10 Tuesday he used to go to Mass in cumin and Tufano the practice paper we used to take him 30 minutes but last combination before the fire
03:01:22 before the fire they took him jealous eight minutes but no time to celebrate after he went to a condo I was thinking to celebrate the
03:01:33 condo I was thinking to celebrate the next date but it didn't happen he really enjoyed when we did the bonnet parade although although he didn't really
03:01:44 although although he didn't really although he didn't really want his photo taken but you know he really enjoyed making his Angry Bird hats and it was a great day had by all the children it was
03:01:55 great day had by all the children it was a fun day wherever all the staff were together and everyone was happy and I remember it just been quite a funny day and it was a beautiful sunny day as well and on days like this I always think
03:02:08 and on days like this I always think that the sun is shining on us and Isaac's looking down on us and I remember the day when we released those balloons when we released them up into the sky it was quite a cloudy day wasn't
03:02:19 the sky it was quite a cloudy day wasn't it
03:02:20 it and the minute those balloons rolls into the sky his son just came out and it just felt that he was there with us and I'll always remember how beautiful you
03:02:32 I'll always remember how beautiful you know that memory was is because in my mother tongue language um hi Isaac means
03:02:43 mother tongue language um hi Isaac means joy happiness and love I was really happy proud and grateful that until 14th
03:02:54 happy proud and grateful that until 14th of June
03:02:55 of June thousand seventeen but now my joy is gone and another thing that struck me about when that first home visit they'd only just moved in they didn't have many
03:03:07 only just moved in they didn't have many possessions but the thing that struck me was so full of love the household absolutely you could see that he was
03:03:18 absolutely you could see that he was being loved by both parents ever ever ever ever hundred times ever 100% ever no cheating
03:03:34 they'll have a special garden where we can go and lots of children can sit on his bench and remember him I was always devoted and committed to my little man
03:03:49 devoted and committed to my little man Isaac now I'm worrying for Lucas my youngest son what will he feel as he grows up he lost
03:04:01 what will he feel as he grows up he lost his brother he is still not talking about it
03:04:05 about it even he see his pictures he looks away in his short life he brought a lot of joy to a lot of people's lives and certainly I love going to his class and his friends and will always remember him
03:04:17 his friends and will always remember him and he'll always have a very very special place in all of our hearts and a very special place in this school I ne'er know much has any muralha bunin
03:04:30 ne'er know much has any muralha bunin lutein UNIX and other asset to tell you I don't know in my host damn luck Neve soon began at an early
03:04:54 [Applause]
03:05:16 [Applause] thank you very much indeed for coming to tell us all about Isaac really really moving and and really helpful to see that thank you very much indeed
03:05:27 that thank you very much indeed thank you so much everybody please don't feel the need to rush were about to have a break so if we may break now I think it's five pass one may we say to 15 that
03:05:38 it's five pass one may we say to 15 that was just what I was going to suggest mister forgive me for interpreting too soon to 15 thank you very much
03:05:54 you